Ask the Vet – Sweet itch, hoof supplements, deworming foals & more! – May 2019
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Ask the Vet – Sweet itch, hoof supplements, deworming foals & more! – May 2019

November 4, 2019

DAN: Hey, SmartPak fans. I’m a SmartPaker Dan. She is Dr. Lydia Gray,
SmartPak Staff Veterinarian and Medical Director. And we are doing our
very first taping of Ask the Vet in front
of a live audience. So we are here at
TNT Equine to answer five questions asked by horse
owners, just like these people right here. DR LYDIA GRAY: They’re
real life horse owners. DAN: So I know we’ve never
done a live event before. DR LYDIA GRAY: This
is our first one. DAN: How are you
feeling about it? DR LYDIA GRAY: I’m
a little nervous. I’m excited but can you
ask me again at the end? DAN: Yes. DR LYDIA GRAY: OK. Perfect. DAN: I’m already
expecting that it’s going to be a good group here. DR LYDIA GRAY: They
look like a good group. DAN: Well, we definitely
got some great questions– DR LYDIA GRAY: Yes! DAN: –for them so let’s
jump right in to it. So question number
one was asked by Sue. And Sue wants to know, “What
is your most successful hoof supplement?” Woo-hoo. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah,
so is Sue here tonight? Sue’s in the back. OK. I wasn’t sure what
“successful” meant. It could mean best selling,
which I have answers for that. And I’m not sure which is first,
second, third so I’ll just give you the top three in any order. And it’s Farrier’s
Formula Double Strength. It’s our SmartHoof
Ultra and our SmartHoof. So those are our
three best selling. I said, maybe by “successful”
she meant reviews. And those all have
really good reviews, like 4.8 out of 5 stars
and 4.6 and like 98% would refer it to a friend– recommend it to a friend. So that was, to
me, that’s success. But then, me being the
veterinarian and scientist I said, maybe she meant research. Did you mean research? You meant research, right? So I found the research for you. And a lot of it is in Lippizans. And its really fun statements
like – where’s a good one here? This was 19 months
of biotin treatment. Takes a long time for the
horse to show improvement. The horn quality showed a small
but significant improvement. And in research, the
word “significant” is what you’re looking for. When the trend is
significant, then you’ve really done something. Let’s see, here’s the
biotin with a daily dose of 20 milligrams
improves and maintains hoof horn quality in horses
with a less than optimum quality hoof. So I’ve got 1, 2, 3, 4– I’ve got five
research articles here that all say about
the same thing. That biotin improves the
hoof hardness, integrity, the quality of the hoof. Now it’s not just biotin. Some of these studies
also used formulas that had say, methionine
and lysine and threonine. So the top three essential amino
acids, or limiting amino acids. They also used at the micro
minerals copper and zinc. Some had omega 3s and collagen
is another ingredient you might see in a hoof supplement. So between the best selling and
the reviews and the research, I think I have quantified
success for you. So did I leave out anything? DAN: I think you nailed it. DR LYDIA GRAY:
Oh, oh, all right. OK. DAN: So based on that
seems like looking for a supplement with
some nice biotin quality to it along with some of
those other ingredients– DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah,
the study said– here’s one 10 to 30
milligrams of biotin a day, depending on body weight. Not less than six to nine
months shows a progress in hardness, integrity,
and conformation of hoof horn in all cases. So 10 to 20 milligrams per day. And those three supplements
that I mentioned fit that. And I think actually
the SmartHoof Ultra was 35 milligrams of biotin a day. DAN: So you did touch
base on a little bit here as far as the number of
months for the hoof supplement. DR LYDIA GRAY: Right. DAN: Can you talk about
why it was like 19 months? DR LYDIA GRAY: I can,
yes, because hooves grow very slowly from
the coronary band where the hair is down. About a quarter of
an inch a month. So if you think about the
average horses hoof being three inches long,
it takes a year for a hoof to grow fully out. So most of these studies were
at least one year in length. And in fact, one of
them said several months after they stopped
giving the biotin, the new growth was
poor quality again. So that’s a really
good study because it said it was poor quality
and then we gave the hoof supplement and it got better. And then we stopped giving
it and it got worse again. DAN: Which is going
to get a lot of people to start looking at the toes
to see if there’s cracking. You have to start– DR LYDIA GRAY: You gotta look– DAN: –at the top. DR LYDIA GRAY: –where
the hair comes out. It’s just like your fingernails. The stuff out here is dead but
near the skin, the cuticle, is where it’s live, yeah. DAN: Well, perfect. We’ll, Sue, hopefully that
gave you some good advice and gave you a good
direction to go in. So moving on to
question number two. This was submitted by Rachel. And Rachel wants
to know, “Could you please discuss an
appropriate deworming schedule for the first two years
of life, including discussion on developing natural
resistance to parasites by not administering dewormer
prior to a certain age?” So first off, is Rachel here? OK, so Rachel, you
know how to get your question answered
because Dr. Gray loves talking about deworming. Perfect. DR LYDIA GRAY: I
think I want to go with the last part of
that question first. Can you read it again? DAN: Yes. So the last part was
discussion on “developing natural resistance to parasites
by not administering dewormer prior to a certain age.” DR LYDIA GRAY: So I don’t
want to put you on the spot or embarrass you but
what the heck, it’s live. That would be a
myth because I went to the source of all things
deworming and parasite control. And it’s the AAEP. They have guidelines
for parasite control. From all ages. They talk about all
chemical classes, all different kinds of worms. They talk about
fecal egg counts. It’s all there, spelled out. It’s like a 92 page document
and I read it for this evening. And I printed out the
page on young horses. But they say that young
horses should have, at a minimum, four treatments
in their first year of life. And the concept of not
showing the young horse a dewormer when they’re young to
teach their immune system is– the opposite is true. So you want to– the young horses would be
considered high shedders. So the most damaging
to your facility. And you need to deworm them
like they’re a high shedder. So I’m going to read this part
to make sure I get it right. “The first deworming should
be carried out about two to three months of age.” And that’s with
the benzimidazole. because the worm of interest
with the young horse is the roundworm,
or the ascarid. And your ivermectin and
moxidectins, the roundworms have now become resistant. So we have to use
something else. And so that’s the benzimidazole. The next deworming,
the second one, is recommended just
before weaning. And the assumption is that
happens in the four to six months age range. The third and fourth dewormings
are at 9 months and 12 months. So about every three
months you deworm your baby through their
first year of life. Now they want the first fecal
egg count at weaning also because what’s important is– the worm of concern is the
roundworm or the ascarid. As they age, the worm of
concern becomes the strongyle, specifically this
small strongyle. You start doing fecal egg counts
in that first year of life to know when to stop
using benzimidazoles and start using
ivermectins and moxidectins for the small strongyle because
you can see in the fecals the eggs. So early on, the fecals will
have roundworm eggs, primarily. And as the young horse ages,
the worm eggs in the fecal will turn to strongyle eggs. And when that happens, you can
throw out your benzimidazoles, give them away for
Christmas presents because they’re useless
in the young horse, right? DAN: You’ll be so popular. DR LYDIA GRAY:
You’ll be so popular. And then you start using your
ivermectins and moxidectins. But it’s really important
to deworm the young horse at least four times
because they are contaminating your facility. They’re filling it up with
eggs and they’re making every other young horse– they’re infecting all the other
horses, young and old alike. DAN: So the young horse
isn’t like building up an immunity or something
by not giving a dewormer? DR LYDIA GRAY: Correct. Yeah. Can you say that again? That was actually
really well said so– I know! Here you go. Can you say it again? DAN: Hopefully. No. So a young horse is not
going to build up an immunity by not having a dewormer? DR LYDIA GRAY: Correct. DAN: OK. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah. Yeah. Did we say that right? OK. OK, so yeah, so that’s
deworming the young horse. Their first year of life is
really, really important. DAN: So she wants to know
the first two years, though. DR LYDIA GRAY: Well– DAN: Not to be greedy because
that was a great answer. DR LYDIA GRAY: But that’s
what the fecal egg count then tells you because– DAN: And then at that point on– DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah. At some point, as you keep
doing fecal in a young horse, you figure out when
they change over to primarily
strongyles, which is the worm of concern in the adult
mature horse and not so much round worms. When that happens, you can
start giving the ivermectin and moxidectin. The fecal will also tell you
is that young horse– so now it’s in year two, –a high
shedder or a low shedder. If it’s a high shedder, you
continue to deworm frequently. A low shedder can be dewormed
once or twice a year. DAN: Hope for a low shedder. DR LYDIA GRAY: Low shedder. So yeah, that’s would be the
first year and the second. But it’s all about monitoring. It’s called fecal surveillance. Surveillance and
strategic deworming because of the whole resistance. DAN: Well, thank you. Hopefully, Rachel, that
was helping you guys out. So we’ll move on to
question number three, which was submitted by Karen. And Karen wants to know, “What
is the best way to build up a horse to eating
grass in the spring after having hay all winter? Is a half hour at a
time each day too much? What would you best
time increments to increase each day?” DR LYDIA GRAY: OK. And then is Karen here? DAN: Oh, there she is. That’s a great question, Karen. DR LYDIA GRAY: It
is and I liked it. I picked it because– I keep thinking we’re
in spring and then it keeps not being spring. But someday spring will be here. So good to be ready. I think that introducing
a horse to grass is very individual to the horse. Because, like people, there seem
to be horses that have really hearty digestive systems and
you could do anything with them. Like, my horse when I
was a kid, he was great. I don’t think I could have done
anything to cause him to colic. And the horse I have
now, achoo and he colics. So if you have a horse
like my first one, then probably an hour a day,
two hours a day, pasture! But the horse I have now, I do
in 10 to 15 minute increments. And so it takes me weeks
and weeks and weeks. It takes me probably a month
to get him to full turnout. Most of the papers
I’ve read on this do talk about a 10
to 15 minute interval as the conservative, safe way. But if you can go a half hour– like, I tend to go not
every day increasing it. I’ll go 15 minutes
for like three days and then I’ll half an
hour for three days and then 45 minutes
for three days. And so you see how it
takes me weeks and weeks. But it also depends,
too, on your pasture. If you have a really
super lush green pasture, then you’re going to have to err
on the more conservative side. And you know, what’s
the harm in erring on the conservative side? It’s time. DAN: Yeah. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah. The other thing
that you could do is and this is
something I do too, if I don’t hand graze then I
will muzzle him to slow down that consumption. Are you laughing at my horse? DAN: At the grazing muzzle. DR LYDIA GRAY: The
grazing muzzle. Yeah, yeah. DAN: Just the way it came off. DR LYDIA GRAY: Oh, OK. So I’ll put the grazing muzzle
on to slow him down further. And I do also try to use my
fifth grade, seventh grade earth science training
on photosynthesis. What grade was it? DAN: That was
like, fifth, sixth. DR LYDIA GRAY:
Fifth, sixth grade. On photosynthesis where the
sun and water and air combine and the plants use it
to photosynthesize. And then they make
sugars all day long. And then during the
night they respire. And I called it “plant
business” once and now I can never live that down. So they do their plant
business at night and they use up the sugar. And so there’s a lady
at Her name is Katie Watts. She’s a plant scientist. And she says the lowest
sugar times for horses are 3 AM to 10 AM. So turn out in the morning. If you’re going to do this
slow approach to turning out, start in the morning. I know it might be better
to handgraze at night when you’re back from work. But if sugar is at all a
concern, then that’s not ideal. The last thing I
would add– there’s always another thing
and another thing. –is I like to tell people
that this time of year like, a month before you
begin to do this and then as you’ve
turned out to full and maybe a month after just
to ease the transition period, add a digestive
support supplement. So something with
prebiotics, with probiotics, with yeast and enzymes to help
their digestive system just make that transition
more smoothly. So that the hindgut is
especially stabilized. Because the whole reason
we changed feed in horses gradually is not
because of the horse. They have pretty
good chompers, right? It’s the bacteria that live in
the hindgut they get shocked easy. They have a very simple life. They don’t get exposed
to much and then if one day they’re eating hay
and the next day it completely changed over to grass,
they’re like, “Oh my goodness” and they just die. And then they release toxins
and then the bad bacteria, who are laying in wait, they
opportunistically take over. So that’s the whole reason. So if you can throw
some support in there, like some probiotics
and things, it might make the
transition go over– I even like a hindgut buffer
to ease that transition period. And consider that the spring– I should say this differently. Consider that the fall is
just as dangerous a time as the spring, if not more so. Because of the
photosynthesis and then the plant business
doesn’t go on at night once it dips below
freezing, or below 40 or so. So they make all the
sugar during the day and then they’re just like,
well, now what do I do with it? Because it’s too cold
at night to work. DAN: That’s an interesting
point because people forget about fall. DR LYDIA GRAY: They
forget about fall, yeah. And then we get lots
of fall laminitis. Especially if you have a
horse with Cushing’s disease or equine metabolic syndrome
and their threshold, their tipping point
is very close. All they need is that those
first freezing days in fall and then you’ve tipped
them over into a laminitis. DAN: So all Karen has to do
is do pre and probiotics, get up at 3:00 in the
morning, and she’s good. DR LYDIA GRAY: Well,
SmartPak is going to invent an automatic
gate opener that opens the gate at 3:00. And then you just go out
at 10:00 and close it. Yeah, so we’ll
have that covered. DAN: Patent pending. DR LYDIA GRAY: All
right, all right. DAN: Awesome. Well, moving on to
question number four, which was submitted by KC. And KC wants to know, “Are
there general guidelines for time frames for how long
it takes to see improvements from supplements?” KC, are you in the crowd? No. DR LYDIA GRAY: Ah. OK– DAN: Someone raise their hand. Pretend like you’re KC,
we have a gift card. DR LYDIA GRAY: I
feel like we’ve been kind of leading up to this– DAN: Yeah, kind of. DR LYDIA GRAY: –all night. So the interesting
thing about supplements is they’re all different. We talked about hoof
supplements earlier that the hoof grows
from the hairline a quarter of an inch a month
and it takes about a year to grow out. So you’re not going to see the
benefits of a hoof supplement until it might be
even six months. I mean, some of those studies
were 18 months, two years. So hoof supplements,
I think, are probably one of the longest– DAN: Patience is your friend. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah, yeah. On the other extreme will be
something like electrolytes. Electrolytes are
something they have let’s say sodium chloride,
calcium, magnesium. What you don’t
need, what’s excess, gets excreted in the urine. And so you can’t
preload electrolytes. Let’s say you’re
going on a trip or you know you’re doing a
endurance ride or something. You can’t start giving the
horse electrolytes a week before because they’re
just going to pee them out. So you start the day before,
the day of, or the day after. And you use them more as
a replenish at the time. So that’s not
something that you need to start months and
months ahead of time. Some other examples are
like, a non-sweating. DAN: Yes. DR LYDIA GRAY: That’s
important to start– DAN: Anhidrosis. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah,
that’s important to start before the season. So it’s not just that you
need to start it a month or two ahead of
time but it needs to be a month or
two ahead of time ahead of when this horse
is going to start sweating. So there’s variability
in how long they take to work and variability
on the time of year that’s best to add them in to the mix. DAN: To your point, so
with the anhidrosis, if you’re also
getting to somewhere and you realize your
horse isn’t sweating and then you start
a supplement, it’s going to take a couple months
maybe to see that kind of– DR LYDIA GRAY: Well, and
it may not ever work. With anhidrosis, that’s
a really tricky one. And they say there’s really
good instructions on that label. And it says when you
start this, maybe ease off on the workload of
your horse so that you don’t cause them to sweat. And let the ingredients
build up in the horse so that when the horse does
need to sweat, he’s ready, he’s prepared. So in that case,
if you’re like, oh, I forgot to put this
in my horse’s SmartPak and I’m like a month
late, then you’re going to need to
back off the exercise and let that supplement work. Weight gain is one. So when I was in the horse– DAN: I see instant
results on that one. DR LYDIA GRAY: That’s
that Twinkie diet. When I was in the horse rescue
business, it took for a horse we would impound, it
took about two weeks to see a weight change. But I mean, that was a
skin and bones horse. So I tell people
at least a month, six weeks, maybe two
months to see a change. And if I had to make
a general statement, I would say results
in four to six weeks but give it two months
to be absolutely sure that it is or is not working. But again, it depends. Here’s another one that’s
seasonal– insect defense. DAN: Yes. DR LYDIA GRAY: You
know, that’s one that it needs to be in
their system for a while but it needs to be the system
before the bug season starts to sort of make them not
attractive to insects, I think, is how we say it. So we talked about time of year. Oh and then also, are
you expecting just to maintain the normal health
of the horse or are you looking to address
a particular issue? DAN: That’s a good point. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah. And then that’s going to
change how long it will– because if you’re looking
to support normal, you may not even see a change. But you know, yourself,
I’m giving Omega 3s. I’m helping my horses
health and wellnesses on the cellular level. But if you’re looking to
address an issue like the hooves we talked about,
then you are going to be looking for
visible results. DAN: So let’s say something
like a joint supplement. So like Rachel has a
couple of young horses and she might just
be like oh, I want to maintain and help support. So therefore she might not see
like this drastic difference in movement. DR LYDIA GRAY: Exactly. DAN: She’s just trying to
support what’s already there. DR LYDIA GRAY:
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm yeah. So it’s kind of
your expectations will also inform this
decision of how long it takes for a supplement
to quote, “work.” Yeah. DAN: Is there also a component
to like, each individual horse? Like, how they
might metabolize– DR LYDIA GRAY:
That’s always true. I mean, if you just even look
at the horse’s basic diet– the hay and the grain. Like, I would give
my thoroughbred two bales of hay a day and
he was still a hard keeper. He was a four. He’d never get into a five. DAN: Yeah. DR LYDIA GRAY: You know? So it’s a little bit in
how your horse metabolizes. So yeah, there’s going to be
individual variation there, too, for sure. DAN: Does anyone take
pictures of their horses while they’re at the barn? Something I do after weight gain
is I’ll take a picture day one and then like, a month
later take a picture. See if we’re seeing
results or if I need to switch to something
else or address another issue. DR LYDIA GRAY:
That’s a good idea. And then I do a body
condition score. DAN: That’s another
way to do it. DR LYDIA GRAY: You could
do that or you can also use a weight tape. DAN: Yes. Those are also very good help. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah so– DAN: Pictures are cuter, though. DR LYDIA GRAY: Good point. Good point. DAN: Great question though. Thank you for that one, KC. And we’re on to
our last question. So this is question number five
that was submitted by Lisa. And Lisa wants to know “When is
sweet itch actually sweet itch, and what is it actually
neck threadworms?” BOTH: Ooh. DR LYDIA GRAY: Those are
really good questions. DAN: Good topic. DR LYDIA GRAY: Is Lisa here? Oh, it was two people. OK. Is sweet itch something
that is common around here? No? DAN: We’ve got a big
head nod in the back. DR LYDIA GRAY: OK. So there’s a little bit of
a breed predilection to it. Like, some breed,
some lines seem to be more predisposed
to it than others. Like, my barn owner
has a Lippizan. And I think Lippizans are
a breed that is genetically predisposed to it. So what it is–
sweet itch is there is a culicoides biting midge. It’s also called a no-see-um. It’s a gnat. It’s very, very tiny. So the good news is that a
strong wind can blow them away. And a strong wind can be a fan. So that’s good. The bad news is it’s not so
much the individual biting of this midge that your
horse is reacting to. It’s the saliva that gets
injected into the horse. It’s sets up a body wide or
systemic allergic reaction. So the horse can
get one bite and it can be anywhere and in
the traditional layout of the clinical signs is that
their mane it is so itchy– itchy, itchy is the
hallmark of this sweet itch. But the mane becomes rubbed out. The tail they also
itch and it becomes, they call it a rat tail. Rat tail and buzzed mane
are the way it’s described. The ventral mid-line, so the
belly but exactly in the middle gets all rubbed
out and hairless. And so you look at
that, as a veterinarian, and you think oh, sweet itch. Except– DAN: Always a curve ball. DR LYDIA GRAY: –culicoides,
such a nasty little midge. We should try and
do away with these. They are the intermediate
host for this neck threadworm. And because terms
like “threadworm” can mean something else. There’s actually a threadworm
in the intestinal tract, too. Different story. The neck threadworm, the
word I would like to use is onchocerca. So the culicoides is
the intermediate host for this onchocerca parasite. And so when the culicoides,
stick with me here. DAN: I’m with you. DR LYDIA GRAY: When the
culicoides bites the horse, it injects not just its
saliva that the horse is allergic to but also
this onchocerca parasite. So now you’ve got
a mane or a tail or ventral mid-line that’s
having some reaction. And all of a sudden,
you’re like, wait a minute. Is it sweet itch or
could it be this neck threadworm, this onchocerca? So how do you know? DAN: That’s what I was
just going to ask you. Do you start treating it
like one or the other? DR LYDIA GRAY: Well, this
is one of those conditions that you can absolutely
start treating and then see the
response treatment and make your diagnosis
based on that. And so the way you would treat
and rule out the onchocerca is to deworm. You would give an ivermectin. And if it suddenly
becomes better, then sweet itch wasn’t
the underlying culprit. It was that the culicoides
injected some onchocerca. DAN: So you would start off
assuming it’s neck threadworms by doing the deworming to see if
you get a response from there? DR LYDIA GRAY: Here’s
actually where you start. You start by calling
your vet because many– DAN: You know your audience. DR LYDIA GRAY: –I
actually didn’t know he was sitting right there. But many skin things can look
like many other skin things. And if you start going, well,
I want to save some money and just treat myself,
you’re going to find yourself down the road– you missed the
whole show season. You spent a lot of money
and your horse is miserable. So get the vet out
and get a diagnosis. And the diagnosis can be
through a visual, a history. Because sweet itch
is very classic and it’s what the
horse shows you. And also when it starts– time of the year and when
it ends and then the fact that it’s very, very itchy. You could also do a skin biopsy. And then there’s a
really cool technique where you can take the
skin biopsy and just put it on the farm in water. And the larva of the
onchocerca will come out and you can see them. So that’s a quick
stall side test. And then there’s some other skin
conditions that look like that. There’s summer sores, which is
another parasite, habronema. And so you need to
rule that one out, too. And that one can also be
treated by ivermectin. So the sweet itch is
a little bit more– well, it’s a lot more
challenging– to treat because you have to
stop the itching, you have to possibly treat the
secondary bacterial infection if the horse has
rubbed itself so raw, and then the main
thing is you have to stop the midge from being
able to bite the horse again. Because every bite sets
up the allergy reaction. DAN: Yeah. DR LYDIA GRAY: And keeping
the culicoides, the no-see-um, from biting a horse
is very challenging. I mean, I think it’s more
challenging than keeping ticks off. But I live in an area
with a lot of sweet itch. I don’t live in an area
with a lot of ticks. I might change my story if
I had to live with ticks. But it’s things like using
fans, like I mentioned earlier, keeping horses in at peak times
that the midges are out, nets, having mesh curtains
on your stable so that they can’t come in and
out, having a physical barrier between the gnat and the horse. And that means from head
to toe covering them up. And I get a lot of but
Dr. Gray, don’t they get hot in the summer
when you cover them up? Well, maybe. But if you use a light
colored cover, not as much as a dark color. But trust me, they’re
more comfortable being hot and not itchy then
being not hot and itchy. I think I said that right. DAN: Yes– DR LYDIA GRAY: OK. DAN: –I think you’re good. Well, because you’re putting
a lot of fly sheets now. There are some there are
specifically designed for horses who have sweet itch. DR LYDIA GRAY:
Because they cover– they have area under
here that covers the– DAN: They even have
ones that go all the way up as like a hood over the
ears and things like that. DR LYDIA GRAY: I’ve seen it go
all the way over to the nose. DAN: Yeah. And the material
on that, I believe, it’s finer because those
midges are so small. DR LYDIA GRAY: And it’s
stretchy, some of them too, yeah. DAN: Because seeing a
horse with sweet itch is the saddest
thing you can see. DR LYDIA GRAY: Oh,
it’s miserable. DAN: They just look so
uncomfortable all the time. DR LYDIA GRAY: Yeah
they’re miserable. You can’t do anything with them. Your whole summer is ruined. So you have to really
work hard to prevent that. But you have to make sure that
it’s sweet itch that you’re dealing with. So for that I would
use your veterinarian. DAN: Absolutely, absolutely. Perfect. Well, that was it for our
questions for this episode of Ask the Vet. You guys were fantastic. Well, thank you guys
so much for having us up here to TNT Equine. We had such a great time. You guys asked such
amazing questions. Good group, I think it was. The first live episode? DR LYDIA GRAY: It was
the first live episode. I think it went pretty well. DAN: I think you nailed it. DR LYDIA GRAY:
Well, I wasn’t going to say it but yeah, whatever. DAN: We’d love to hear
your guys feedback, if you guys think more live
episodes should be coming up. We’ll see if we can
squeeze some more in. Maybe take it on the road. Take it on the road. DR LYDIA GRAY: You didn’t tell
me you we’re going to say that. DAN: Opportunity to travel. Gotta throw it in there. If the crowd wants
it, you gotta do it. DR LYDIA GRAY: Oh, boy. DAN: But next month, we’ll
be back in our studios filming for our June episode. But we do need your
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  1. Hi SmartPak! Haley here! I was wondering if you can touch on clover and grass laminitis in horses? What can you do to prevent this? #AskTheVet

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