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Is Horse Riding Cruel? Is It Vegan?

August 18, 2019


What is the vegan stance on horseback riding?
Is riding horses cruel? Well, get ready to get controversial! Hi it’s Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome
to another vegan nugget. Today’s topic is something that I’ve been asked to cover
by may of you out there, especially recently, so I’ve been doing my research. I want to
first give thanks to Fair Horsemanship for all of her assistance and I’ll tell you
how to get connected with her later in the video. I’m first going to address the question
of whether or not riding horses is vegan and then I’ll move onto whether it’s cruel.
As I said in my video about wool, veganism, in general, is about opposing the use of animals
for our own personal gains in any form whatsoever. If we look at horseback riding, it’s evident
that horses do not need to be ridden. Horseback riding solely benefits the rider and so it
is a form of using animals for our entertainment, which is explicitly not vegan. Now this is not a popular stance and there
are several arguments as to how riding benefits the horse. One of these is that domesticated
horses need exercise. The most simple response to this is that domesticated dogs also need
exercise, yet owners are able to provide this without having to mount them. A second argument
is that riding provides a horse with an enriched environment. Again, this can be as easily
be achieved without someone atop them by walking the horse from the ground. A third argument
is one that comes in many forms but always starts with “By my horse loves…” and
ends with: being ridden, going to shows, wearing a bridle, having a bit, running the barrels,
or what have you. And perhaps there is some horse out there who actually likes to be ridden.
But let’s take a look at what riding does to a horse’s body physically. What I’m going
to cover is just a cursory look into the impact of horseback riding on horses. I have links
to additional resources in the blog post for this video, which is linked in the video description
and I urge you to reference those studies if you want to delve deeper into his topic.
Let’s start with skeletal structure. There is a saying that a horse is ready to ride
when their “knees close.” This refers to waiting until the growth plates just above
their knees convert from cartilage to bone. Dr. Den Bennet in her article Timing And Rate
Of Skeletal Maturation In Horses, states that “what people often don’t realize is that
there is a “growth plate” on either end of every bone behind the skull, and in the
case of some bones (like the pelvis or vertebrae, which have many ‘corners’) there are multiple
growth plates.” She goes on to detail the exact schedule of growth plate conversion
to bone in horses. While many people start riding their horses around the age of 2, Dr.
Bennet’s schedule shows that the last plates to fuse are in the vertebral column- and this
does not occur until the horse is at least five and a half years old, with taller horses
and males taking even longer. According to the text Practical Anatomy and Propaedeutic
of the Horse, the length of time for complete growth of the epiphyseal plates, or cartilage,
is not until they are (on average) between 6 and 9 years old! The basic takeaway of all of that is that
it’s incredibly easy to damage a horse’s back and displace his or her vertebral growth plates,
causing pain and lasting injury. Aside from the issue of growth plate fusion,
riding a horse at any age causes skeletal damage as well as muscle and tissue. Expert
horseman, Alexander Nevzorov states “A horse’s back is not a seat, not a place for a human
butt, not a piece of “meat”, not some sort of “terra fir- ma”. It is a very
complex and tender anatomical structure with extraordinary functions. Besides the obvious
biomechanical function, the back has another very important function. The spinal cord’s
work is to guarantee that the responses from the entire nervous system can communicate
the senses of taste, smell, vision, hearing, and vestibular function to the brain, not
to get lost in too much detail. On this especially vulnerable, sensitive organ, onto the medulla
spinalis, the brain of the back, sits a rider.” In a 2007 study out of the 295 horses who
were considered physically sound upon initial examination, 91.5% were diagnosed with some
kind of alteration on the spinal processes after X-ray. Almost always the spinal processes
of the caudal saddle position were affected. In horseback riding, the spinal damage caused
by weight alone is compounded by the use of saddles, harnesses, bits, and whips. Saddles
restrict blood flow to the arterial capillary bed causing tissue damage, as well as general
wear and chafing. But nothing is quite as cruel as the use of bits and whips- which
I’m only going to give a cursory nod to in this video. Bits cause pain and damage to a horse’s
complex cranial nerves as well as their teeth, tongue and palate. Facial nerves are extremely
close to the skin and thus extremely sensitive. It is essential to understand that there is
absolutely no way to use a bit without a horse feeling pain. And since I’m running short on time here,
I’ll just say this about using a whip: it’s a whip! Now all of this is just barely scraping the
surface of the horse issue. I haven’t even addressed the practice of breaking horses,
horse racing, the rodeo and other topics and I’ll cover those in future videos. For great
information on horse-friendly activities from the ground and with positive reinforcement,
please head over to Fair Horsemanship’s channel as well as check out her website.
She’s a great resource on this topic. Give the video a thumbs up if you likes it
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  1. Well my horse And my dad‘s horse are two big spoiled babies and are living a great life A great life not all horse riders are abusive some of the really really really care about their horses and their well-being I always make sure that my horses comfortable and when we go to the stables I always checking to make sure he doesn’t have any new cuts or bruises because he is injury prone can he never stopped eating so you can say every riders is abusive

  2. The reason we ride horses is because people have been doing it for hundreds of years the methods have change but you still are riding a horse .

  3. Lmao we are spending 2642731 money for a horse we are taking care of it and we are exercising it to be fit, in a good shape and to be healthy! AND A LOT MORE witch you will read to the others people comments! And we know when we can ride a horse 🙂 We don't ride them when they are still getting higher lol. Go and see people doing bare back, liberty, bitlles riding, etc. Lol don't talk when you have no clue of horse riding

  4. Oh and horse riding helps people to live! If a human has got cancer or body problems and etc. Then horse riding making them happy, fit and strong! So they can live xx biss

  5. Oml why doesnt this video have more likes

    Only joking why doesnt it have more dislikes

    If horses didnt want you to ride them they would buck you off easiy. They are very strong aswell as very strongwilled.

  6. I'm a strict vegetarian! I don't eat meat/eggs/dairy and in the future I will be more careful about what boots I buy. But I also have pets, use their naturaly shed wool, ride my horses [tackless or in rope halter and they are barefoot, free to run in and out at will, and fed a natural diet of free choice pasture/hay] so I'm not exactly vegan but it's easier to say I am vegan when shopping because i don't want to support any animal suffering even though I ride my pets and wear their shed hair. I also don't feel bad about honey but that doesn't mean I'm not on your side. I do think riding is not vegan and usually is very cruel but don't think sitting on my horse or even trail riding in her rope halter causes her any harm. My appy is only going on five in a few months so I haven't put a synthetic saddle on her because she is still growing but i sit on her and ask her to carry me around which isn't vegan and neither is insisting anything else from our pets but they are the reason i am a strict vegetarian. I don't get along with most other horse people. Even tho I'm not a real vegan i do abstain from animal exploitation as much as is practicable but I'm not going to stop cohabiting with animals or riding those who are big enough and spinning their shed hair cause they are the reason i care and I don't believe I'm a monster like people who kill and torture animals because i don't kill or buy the dead and don't eat flesh or buy animal products. I like having pets and the worst thing i do is coerce anyone big enough to carry me around but i can live with that. I just feel weird saying im vegan when technicaly not but don't want to say vegetarian and get served animals boddies because someone thought eggs or dairy were vegetarian or wool that didn't come from loved pets so i keep saying vegan to non vegans. Oddly enough i usually also have to explain that I'm vegetarian and exactly what i will not eat when they think vegan means gluten free… It's crazy. P.s. before it comes up i'm not plant based because i'm plant and fungi only. I was plant based back when I still ate flesh and felt horrible so I'm proud to be vegetarian even if I'm not vegan enough for anyone else I'm still vegetarian + lol

  7. lts just give up on riding horses and just eat them, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmn i love horse meat
    ride a horse when it gets lame butcher it, ,

  8. There is a friendly way and a cruel way to ride horses. There is a line between equastrians who respect their horses' own will and those who only see the animal as a lower class creature. You can either ride without bits, building up relationships between you and your horse (wich is take a lot of time of course) , ride him twice a week and on the other days focus on ground work, or simply just walking it, or building up trust etc. etc. And you can have a horse just for taking it to shows, to show the world "how great and talented rider you are", use cruel methods instead of pure trust to controll the horse, ride him every day for hours then put it in unnatural situations against it's will, and then say " OH my horse just loves jumping" and " I love my horse, I could never hurt him"…. At the same time I still say on my own experiences that there are many horses who has so much energy they can NOT get enough exercise just by running circles in the pen or walking in the forest. Plus they get bored pretty soon cause they are indeed intelligent animals. Adding the fact that there was 2 horses I've worked with who got obesed, when they only did groundwork for months in the winter (by the way they are outside all day on a huge field, they even got their own little forest xd ) and they become more frustrated and stressed mentally,just by not getting enough exercise…During proper horsebackriding the rider (if she has the knowledge wich she usually dont have) make the horse doing bendings, circles and exercises that help the horse moving and stretching important muscle groups wich is beneficial for the joints of the horse (because of the development of muscles take part of the pressure caused by the animal's weight off the joints and legs . Still I would say overdoing it is not good for the horse, but I think getting on their back 2 or 3 times a weak can actually be good for the horse, IF done correctly. But my problem is that this kind of horsemanship needs a lot of knowledge. Of course no one was born a perfect rider, and they need to learn on horseback. And therefore the hurt of schoolhorses seems unavoidable.. I think there are methods that can reduce the nuisance of these schoolhorses, on the first place teaching the basics on simulators and make more educational lessons. Of course my dream about cruelty free horse riding lessons wont come true easily because it would be less profit for the owners of riding academys. Money come first before their own horses well-being and I think this is disgusting.. They dont even belive in the most important lesson about horse riding, so how could they teach it to children? That the horse is a living creature with its own will and feelings and everyone should respect this statement… I dont even want to dive in rodeos, racing, or these weird american tenessee walking horse shows..They are such a disgrace for the whole equine community and they are existing only because of the stupidity and ignorance of everyday people. Same story as circuses…

  9. your only showing the bad side of riding. and you can’t even give an opinion because you probably haven’t even sat on a horse. don’t bash on a community when you don’t have any idea about it.

  10. I’m not sure how I found this video, but my only comment is without the aid of horses in our history we would’ve have the computer to spread this news, would not have been able to do the older farm work to feed every human “vegan”. This like every other claim to livestock misuse comes down to our modern luxury to be this picky of a diet.

  11. First, I don’t use a bit,two I don’t use whips,three I love my horse,and five your a crazy person why would horse lick my face a nuzzle me and try to canter with me when I can only trot if they didn’t want to?I don’t want to here your comments, you don’t have to go vegan to love animals

  12. This video is so wrong I can't get over it! And you only show the bad side of riding and if my lesson horse didn't want to be ridden she would run from me, rear and/ or buck me off she has not done that once and if penny (my lesson horse) didn't want to be ridden then why would my trainer let me!? And if we didn't ride them they would be so bored and un-fit. This video makes it sound like we're abusing the horse. I see penny as my partner not some animal that we force to obey us! So please make it sound like us equestrians are not abusing or being mean, or disrespect our horses for me it's the complete opposite I see me and penny as a powerful team and I RESPECT her! If she doesn't want to do something after I try for a while I will stop and won't make her do it and I think that makes her respect me. It seems like a lot of research went into this video but you only pulled out the negative stuff. Again I respect my horse (I call her mine because I ride her) and she respects me.
    Edit: the part about the saddle chafing and rubbing the withers is because people don't pull up their saddle pad so it doesn't do that

  13. Seriously, stay the fuck out of peoples lives. Stop ramming your fucking twisted beliefs and agendas down other peoples throats. Stay in your fucking lane, moron.

  14. Iv been around horses for a long time I know with good quality gear and knowledge of how a horse moves it is not cruel

  15. Bits are cruel. Overweight riding is cruel. Whips are cruel. Shows are cruel. Tie downs are cruel.

    If you don’t use or do these things, if you know what you’re doing, if you work with your horse, it’s not cruel.

  16. Ya'll cling so hard to keep up your abusive habits, just admit these are novelty animals for you and you keep them for your own selfish purposes.

  17. Umm she knows nothing about horses …. “most people start riding their horse at the age of 2” no hun, that’s usually not acceptable in the equine community most horses I know are broken in at the age of 3-5 And breaking in isn’t always riding barely it’s just walking around getting them used to a saddle teaching them their paces.

  18. Omg.. another one “general use and chafing” uses a photo of a horses wither that’s cut and bleeding. This would never happen on your average horse and saddle. I hate how you probably just searched up equestrian abuse because none of these photos are normal all of them I disagree with just the fact you’re generalising saying Is horse riding vegan. Well equestrian abuse is certainly not vegan but healthy horses with well fitting equipment ridden in moderation with the right diet that’s totally fine

  19. Hunny. You have never ever ridden a horse. You don’t know shit. Nobody rides horses at 2 or 3. Most horses are started at 5-6. If you wanna tell us to stop doing our sport why don’t we go to a school and tell them to shut down their football programme

  20. lol I died when she was like "domestic dogs are able to be exercised without being mounted" I was like WHAT!? WHO IS GONNA BE LIKE LETS HOP ON MY DOG! Thats honestly so stupid. This video angers me. Most facts are wrong. I hate people like this

  21. I get why you think bits are painful for them but really!!! There are Bridals with no bits or you can use a soft bit so people don't hurt their mouths in all honesty riding horses isn't cruel and most Equestrians who ride takes care of their horse and loves them these are just the bad side of photos you never showed the good side sorry but I've been riding for 2 nearly 3 years and I hardly never use the crop I mostly use my voice and this video is just wrong sorry but that's my point of view

  22. lol im dying of how stupid and incorrect this video is
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLL
    yeah i get that there are dumbass equestrians, but not all are abusive 4:01

  23. this is ridiculous. riding horses are bred to be ridden, it is their purpose to be worked. saddling a horse is far form abuse and your “it hurts their back” argument is invalid. every rider uses a saddle pad to prevent rubbing, most use a half pad to add support to the saddle too. and since i’m guessing you have never ridden, we post to the trot (up and down) and light seat (lift butts off the saddle) in the canter to KEEP WEIGHT OFF THE HORSES BACK. these animals have connections to their owners and enjoy being worked. it’s offensive to see you say that equestrians abuse their horses by simply doing what they’re made to do. it’s not all for “entertainment”, there have been so many days where i didn’t want to ride but i knew my horse needed to be worked, and it wasn’t fair to not work her.

  24. Bet all these facts were off of Wikipedia… And those images are off of Google. You obviously know nothing of horses. Whips/crops only sound and look scary (before I started riding, I thought the horses were being hurt as well-) but they aren't. It's just a light tap on the horses's hind end, front legs, or bottom neck. Bits are place comfortably in the mouth and if it is digging into the horses mouth or cheeks there is something wrong and the owner of that horses needs to stop and yeet themself off of a bridge.

  25. horse riding can be cruel… but not always. before and after I ride, i always brush the girth and saddle area. that way, there are no sores. bits can be cruel, but you do have to pull hard on a basic eggbut or d-ring for it to hurt, and the other types like pelhams can easly hurt a horse, but in western riding, or an advanced rider on a strong horse, or a king dressage rider, it can be fine. a whip can also huurt, and can be abused, but if you are a good rider then you should know to give your horse plenty of warning first. some of the horses i ride are so lazy that they literally won't even trot. even if i kick as hard as i possibly could (which i never do under normal circumstances). and yes, whips do cause some pain, but can be used properly. it all depends on how you ride, there is a lot of abuse, it is better to stop the abusers than turn the whole riding community against vegans.

  26. How the heck do you think people got around before vehicles were invented? They rode horses, they rode horse-drawn carriages, they even used horses to plow their gardens. If you treat them good it's not cruelty.

  27. yeah just like putting a collar or harness on a dog hurts it and there is no need for a collar we can just keeps are dogs in the fucking house, be real lady the saddle might hurt just like the collar might hurt. Wrestling is a sport that hurts. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HURTS DOESN'T MEAN ITS NOT FUN

  28. Saddle pads are made to a protect a horses back, there are two pads a horse wears under a saddle. Bits also only hurt a horse when the reigns are pulled on too hard, the bit isn’t properly cleaned, put in wrong or broken. And those pictures she showed are not what happens to every horse it only happens when the tack isn’t put on right or is too tight. Also a “Whip” is called a crop and it is tapped agents the horses side for encouragement, it only hurts a horse when it is used to hit them and that would be a really hard hit to hurt them.

  29. As an equestrian, I disagree with most of this and I know some of it isn't true (eg. although SOME horses do get broken in at 2, they are always given a year or so off to grow after a couple of rides with a very light rider and breaking is rarely cruel, especially modern breaking. people don't jump on a bronc and exhaust them until they listen, now almost all handlers take a much more gentle, understanding approach to it.), yes, there is cruelty in all disciplines, but not much, and there is cruelty in every sport and aspect of life. The only thing I really have anything against is the racing industry. They are cruel in SO many ways. and please don't think all racing stables are bad but in general they are horrific. I've owned about 5 ex-racehorses before (trotters and flat gallopers) and either they have permanent injuries or mental health issues that take away from their quality of life. Not to say there aren't good ex-racehorses out their, because there are, but it's really a gamble to get one and people who support racing can say it's humane all they want but once you've seen the horses they make, you'll disagree with it too. Horses don't lie. If you want to know the truth about anything to do with them, keep that in mind.

  30. I do try to do my best for my horses. I ride with no bit because I don’t think they’re necessary. I try to ride bareback as much as possible ect horse riding is not cruel. It depends on the person. Some people give the horse a choice and others think that they always have to boss the horse, the horse has to have a choice.

  31. its about time the cruelty of riding horses was talked about. if you wouldnt like someone sitting on your back, putting a steel bar in your mouth, whipping and spurring your sides then it goes without saying a horse doesnt either. horses are just dumb animals put on this earth for the enjoyment of ritchie rich right. you cant in all honesty call yourself an animal lover and ride horses. you are an animal abuser when you sit your fat ass on a horse cause your to lazy to walk, run or bike anywhere.

  32. 3:54– they need a girth with some padding or stuff on it

    3:55– it’s obvious they either didn’t use a saddle pad at all(BIG NO NO) or their saddle pad wasn’t thick enough and didn’t have enough padding

    Edit: CROP! I don’t know any equestrians who use whips just because, my trainer has one but she just drags it along the ground to get the horse going, it never even touches the horse, we use A CROP! It doesn’t hurt(I tested it on myself and I am fine) we also use small spurs occasionally but only if the horse doesn’t listen to the crop or just squeezing with u legs

  33. Horses DO NEED to be ridden. All horses need excersize and some horses actually do like to be ridden considering horses have something called a "personality". Sorry to say but horses generally need 2-3 hours of excersize and they are not going to get that by walking them like a dog. Not to mention, how the fuck do you handle a frightened horse after a vehicle disturbs the animal. It's just as dangerous to be walking a frightened horse.

  34. I lost so many brain cells watching this and reading the vEgAns who comment thinking they know stuff about riding

  35. Quote from Nevzorov's Haute Ecole Equine Anthology
    "It is enough to look at the nerve patterns in a horse's back to understand how sensitive it is. It is no accident of course that the anatomical structure of the horse's nervous system is so extraordinarily well constructed.

    Besides the obvious biomechanical function, the back has another very important function. The spinal cord's work is to guarantee that the responses from the entire nervous system can communicate the the senses of taste, smell, vision, hearing, and vestibular function to the brain, not to get lost in too much detail.
    On this especially vulnerable, sensitive organ, onto the medulla spinalis, the brain of the back, sits a rider.

    It isn't a conventional way to think that the horse's back is the home of the spinal cord brain and is not made for any external loadings, it has completely different functions.
    A horse's back is not a seat, not a place for a human butt, not a piece of 'meat', not some sort of 'terra-firma'. It is a very complex and tender anatomical structure with extraordinary functions.
    Without any harm being done, without alarming the nerves or progressing to pain or damage, is it possible for a rider to sit astride a horse's back?
    It is!"
    And look! It's Nevzorov sitting astride! On a horse's back.
    https://www.writingofriding.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/alexander-nevzorov-piaffe.jpg
    Next time you use a quote, use it in the context it was written.
    Also, not a single saddle actually sits directly on the horse's spine. Look up what a "gullet" is and it's function.
    English:
    https://pro-polo-saddles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/changullet.jpg
    https://schleese.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2016/01/p-154-D-web.jpg
    Western:
    http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/images/sheepskin.jpg
    http://sandybottomtrailrides.net/images/sitedesign/trailrides-1.jpg

  36. "This is not a popular opinion" proceeds to give the same ignorant vegan police view you can find in any facebook group

  37. Entertainment at the expense of animals isn't vegan. Having fun together with an animal should be perfectly fine. Not every interaction with animals is automatically "cruelty".
    I realize she corrected herself when editing the video, but the mere fact that she thought riding horses at age 2 was normal at the time of filming, shows that she hasn't actually done much research outside of obviously biased sources.
    Jogging is bad for human knees, yet people still consider it to be an activity that boosts your health. That's because the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, just like horse riding. It's perfectly fine as long as it's done in moderation. Professional horse sports are indeed unhealthy because they overdo it, (possibly with the exception of dressage, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to be sure,) but taking a horse on a trail ride every now and then is perfectly fine.
    By the way, did you know that playing fetch with your dog can also be unhealthy for their joints? (Every time the dog catches up with the ball and digs his heels in to slow down, the front legs get pounded with the pressure of the dog's momentum.) Does that make it abuse? No, because the decrease in health is not significant enough to override the benefits.

  38. Es una muy vieja controversia Incluso yo me la he planteado; veo todos los dias caballos abusados : Flacos ,sucios, rotos, llevando cargas abusivas en el ruido del transito ahogado por el humo de los camiones que circulan. En los rodeos heridos por espuelas y castigados con rebenque . Si. Esto es MALO y debe ser erradicado ..pero montar a caballo como hice cuando niño en pelo y sin nada mas que un bozal de piola no es malo es HERMOSO y jamas use de silla. No me gusta ,ni espuelas ni fustas. Considero el caballo un regalo de Dios Un amigo con el cual los hombres son ayudados en su trabajo y juegos Ellos tiene su dolores su momentos en que no quieren nada Como tambien sus momentos en que se aburren tremendamente…. Y me traia la piolita para salir a a jugar ! El lo disfrutaba enormemente .corriendo y retozando .No veo nada malo en esto. Ya soy viejo de 70 años hace mucho que no monto a caballo Pero sostengo que ya sea por placer por trabajo o lo que sea deben ser amables con el "socio" ensillarlo correctamente ver que no se hiera o le duela algo ,que sus herraduras sean bien colocadas , que el trabajo no se convierta en un campo de tortura no pincharle las costillas para que corcovee ,ni pegarle para que ande o corra Si vamos a disfrutar de una montada que se entre amigos el equino y yo A pelo y con un bozal de piola como en mis epocas de niño

  39. Everyone keeps complaining that she know nothing about horse riding. That’s not the point. The video is on whether it is vegan to ride a horse. You don’t have to ride a horse to know that we do it for our personal preference. I think she knows exactly what she is saying, you don’t have to ride a horse to be an expert, these days everything is on the internet, and yes, you may know a little more by physically riding them since you spend time to get to know their behaviour and personality. But everything you need to know about riding a horse and being vegan has easy evidence of the answer. Just stop being so horrible to her, she is just getting a point across to help people.

  40. Your only focusing on the bad there is a lot of good things about horse riding and you don’t smack the horse with a whip you just remind them to keep going kindly

  41. i was sitting hear DIEYING, as a equestrian we all know that she dosent ride horses and knows nothing about them. And i love how she uses pictures of "Abuse" and people fucking yanking their rains. Like what in the actual fuck. If your going to have or stand up for your opinion actually do the correct research and dont just show the abuseive bitches out their pulling on their ranes. like? WEAH?

  42. If you ride them correctly and look after them well it is vegan, a lot of horses actually do enjoy it

  43. Right, whips are a tool used to guide the horse and make your instructions more clear, they should never be used as punishment but unfortunately some people do. Bits do not cause pain if they are used properly, they apply a small amount of pressure to help the horse know what to do, people do occasionally pull to hard or use a harsh bit which can hurt but that is why there are bitless bridals. If you ride well then your body moves with the horse so that they are comfortable. Most horses enjoy being ridden and they need the exercise. Unfortunately there are people who don't do things correctly which ends up with the horse being unhappy or in pain but that doesn't mean that the whole thing is cruel. I am vegetarian, and I want to be a vet. If it was cruel I wouldn't do it

  44. OH COME ON! Horse riding is not abuse, I am vegi- and my cousin is vegan. Its so many rescues who ride horses well. CRITICIZE HORSE RACING AND SLAUGHTER. oMG.

  45. OMG I DONT LIKE BITS, I DONT LIKE NO PADS, I DO NOT BOUNCE IN THE SADDLE. I AM CAREFUL. If people did not care for their riding horse they would not have 3+ pads!

  46. Comment by Martine Brie (yes i copyed to spam it again .-.)
    I think you only put the bad things in front. When you are talking about
    riding, you only show pictures of bad riding. You never mentioned what
    the muscles does for the back if you ride in a good way. You never
    mentioned what the principle forward-down in dressage does for the back.
    You show pictures of people pulling on their reins but that's not horse
    riding. Their are also ways to ride without a bit or even without
    bridle. You never mentioned what a good sadle does, what correct
    training does, what the combination of natural horsemanship and riding
    does. Horse riding is more than what you see in the first place. I don't
    assume bad riding doesn't excist and I truely know there is more bad
    than good riding but you see it really in black and white. you assume
    every rider is the same, well believe me, that's not the fact. If you do
    some more effort and get more experience in this, you will maybe see
    the difference between riders. I assume you don't understand if you
    never had ridden a horse yourself in a correct way…

  47. Comment by Martine Brie (yes i copyed to spam it again .-.)
    I think you only put the bad things in front. When you are talking about
    riding, you only show pictures of bad riding. You never mentioned what
    the muscles does for the back if you ride in a good way. You never
    mentioned what the principle forward-down in dressage does for the back.
    You show pictures of people pulling on their reins but that's not horse
    riding. Their are also ways to ride without a bit or even without
    bridle. You never mentioned what a good sadle does, what correct
    training does, what the combination of natural horsemanship and riding
    does. Horse riding is more than what you see in the first place. I don't
    assume bad riding doesn't excist and I truely know there is more bad
    than good riding but you see it really in black and white. you assume
    every rider is the same, well believe me, that's not the fact. If you do
    some more effort and get more experience in this, you will maybe see
    the difference between riders. I assume you don't understand if you
    never had ridden a horse yourself in a correct way…

  48. Comment by Martine Brie (yes i copyed to spam it again .-.)
    I think you only put the bad things in front. When you are talking about
    riding, you only show pictures of bad riding. You never mentioned what
    the muscles does for the back if you ride in a good way. You never
    mentioned what the principle forward-down in dressage does for the back.
    You show pictures of people pulling on their reins but that's not horse
    riding. Their are also ways to ride without a bit or even without
    bridle. You never mentioned what a good sadle does, what correct
    training does, what the combination of natural horsemanship and riding
    does. Horse riding is more than what you see in the first place. I don't
    assume bad riding doesn't excist and I truely know there is more bad
    than good riding but you see it really in black and white. you assume
    every rider is the same, well believe me, that's not the fact. If you do
    some more effort and get more experience in this, you will maybe see
    the difference between riders. I assume you don't understand if you
    never had ridden a horse yourself in a correct way…

  49. Comment by Martine Brie (yes i copyed to spam it again .-.)
    I think you only put the bad things in front. When you are talking about
    riding, you only show pictures of bad riding. You never mentioned what
    the muscles does for the back if you ride in a good way. You never
    mentioned what the principle forward-down in dressage does for the back.
    You show pictures of people pulling on their reins but that's not horse
    riding. Their are also ways to ride without a bit or even without
    bridle. You never mentioned what a good sadle does, what correct
    training does, what the combination of natural horsemanship and riding
    does. Horse riding is more than what you see in the first place. I don't
    assume bad riding doesn't excist and I truely know there is more bad
    than good riding but you see it really in black and white. you assume
    every rider is the same, well believe me, that's not the fact. If you do
    some more effort and get more experience in this, you will maybe see
    the difference between riders. I assume you don't understand if you
    never had ridden a horse yourself in a correct way…

  50. Comment by Martine Brie (yes i copyed to spam it again .-.)
    I think you only put the bad things in front. When you are talking about
    riding, you only show pictures of bad riding. You never mentioned what
    the muscles does for the back if you ride in a good way. You never
    mentioned what the principle forward-down in dressage does for the back.
    You show pictures of people pulling on their reins but that's not horse
    riding. Their are also ways to ride without a bit or even without
    bridle. You never mentioned what a good sadle does, what correct
    training does, what the combination of natural horsemanship and riding
    does. Horse riding is more than what you see in the first place. I don't
    assume bad riding doesn't excist and I truely know there is more bad
    than good riding but you see it really in black and white. you assume
    every rider is the same, well believe me, that's not the fact. If you do
    some more effort and get more experience in this, you will maybe see
    the difference between riders. I assume you don't understand if you
    never had ridden a horse yourself in a correct way…

  51. I'm vegetarian not vegan, but Who says, "My horse loves having a bit!"? And people DON'T RIDE DOGS BECAUSE DOGS ARE WAY TO SMALL!!!!! If my horse really doesn't want me to be on her, I end up on the ground. Also from 1:48 this only apply's to one discipline, horse racing, do you know how many disciplines there are in the equestrian world? You are only focusing on some groups of bad equestrians, you can't generalize that this is the whole sport. You could have titled the video is Horse Racing Vegan? or Are bits Vegan?

  52. Point 1. "domesticated dogs also need exercise"
    They're too small to ride, duh.

    Point 2. "riding provides a horse with an enriched environment that can be provided by walking them"
    You'd have to be Mo Farrah to be able to walk a horse enough for it to exercise it to the level it needs.

    Horses have been selectively bred over thousands of years to make them what they are today. They need exercising and the best way to do that is to sit on them. They are more than strong enough for that. It;'s like saying cars need to be released into the wild. It's daft.

  53. Deep down inside I knew there was something wrong with the way we humans exploit our fellow living beings!!! That's why I always stay away from place where they are exploited! I even get disturbed going into pet stores!!! To put the icing on the cake I worked at a pet store for about a year! I could always feel something wrong about working there! Like I was going against my morals!!! Because come on we mass produce them to sell them for our greed!!! How many lives were taken through the process!!!

  54. Well people make money using horses like in rodeos shows and other stuff so i mean we kinda like need them

  55. I think it is a use of animal, which technically is not vegan. But, it can have some form of consent, which I think turns it vegan again. Or a horse can be “broken” (probably not the correct word to use) or forced into giving in and letting the rider do what they want. Which, I’m not sure is vegan or not.

  56. And we don't NEED to get jobs or care for children, but I think it's better than we'd do that ^

    Also, you say we do it for entertainment, although the very reason we began to domesticate horses was for transportation and farming reasons.

    Without horses we probably wouldn't be as advanced as we are. And without 99.99% of vegans we would definitely be more advanced

  57. When you started talking about the saddles I lost it. A saddle that fits the horse properly would never do those damages. Please before you make a video about horses you should educate yourself.

  58. Okay here is the list of abusive things about horse riding:
    Fox hunts
    Horse racing
    Mounted police
    Certain bits
    Some horse owners

    It takes care and dedication to take care and own a horse. This lady clearly has not done her research or is an active rider as if she was, she would know that riding is exercise for you and your horse. If it causes skeletal damage, why are all the horses around today having no back troubles. All riding horses at my stables have been checked by my saddler and vet, they are fine.

  59. About they’re back…it doesn’t harm they’re back IF you know how to sit properly in your seat. If you use your thighs and sit low in the saddle this causes you to not bounce up and down on the horses back…it’s just not cruel

  60. Geez. Saying, "Is horseback riding vegan?" is like if I said, "Is basketball vegatarian?" Just because it involves an animal does not mean it has anything to do with being vegan. And just because some people are cruel to horses, does not make the sport itself cruel.

  61. Its the horses Choice , If that horse didnt want to be ridden then that horse would get his wish , And the rider would have a face full of blood , mud and shit. of coarse some horses are abused into submission but thats a different problem.

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