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Road Vs Gravel Bike – Is A Gravel Bike Really Any Slower? | GCN Does Science

October 29, 2019


– Gravel bike, cyclo-cross bike, whatever you want to call them, they’re the workhorses
of the cycling world. And for that very reason, more and more people are,
quite rightly, buying them. – Yeah, as an alternative to a road bike. Or perhaps as a second bike. One you use in the
winter or as a commuter. If you are contemplating
buying one though, there is undoubtedly
gonna be that question lurking in the back of your mind. If you buy one, how much slower will it be than a road bike? – Yeah, and if you choose a gravel bike as your only bike, how
much are you losing out to your mates on their road bikes on a silky smooth road surface? – Should we find out, Matt? Like do some science and stuff? – We’re kinda here, aren’t we? – Should we do some science? – Some wet science? – Wet science. – Damp science. – I heard it’s waterproof. It’ll be fine. – [Matt] So what’s the test then? Well, we have two bikes at our disposal. Both with powermeters to make sure that our effort levels are consistent. One is a Canyon Aeroad CF SLX, and the other is a Trek Crockett, which is in that broad
category of cyclo-cross bike to gravel bike. – The test is a simple one. We’ve condensed the whole ride
into just eight kilometres. We’ve got three kinds of twisting descent, a short loop on flat roads before coming back up this final climb. Three distinct sections. We’re gonna do it twice each, once on each different bike. And we’re gonna hold slightly
different average powers. Matt’s gonna go for the
lower end, 200 watts. And I’m gonna go for a
slightly higher end, 300 watts. Then we simply compare the two. Run number one, cross bike, road bike. – Well, sorry, I think you’re gonna need just a little bit of a
headstart, to be honest with you. Off you go. – It’s probably a fair point. All right, mate, see you in a bit! So what are we expecting to see then? Well, the gravel bike’s
gonna be a little bit slower. And that is partly because
it weighs a bit more. So about a kilo over Matt’s road bike and pushing two kilos over mine. But I think it’s the tyres that could make the biggest difference. See, these are wider and treaded. So there is no general
cyclo-cross/gravel tyre. There’s loads of different types. These ones are Continental
CycloCross Racers. They are very, very capable off-road. Not out-and-out mud tyres, but they are grippy. Nevertheless, they do feel
like they roll pretty fast. Not as fast as a road tyre, granted, but in terms of my perception, they do feel pretty good. I just wish I were off there somewhere actually making the most of
what I have at my disposal. – Okay, run number one
on my trusty road bike. Here we go! Got my feet in second time. (exhalation) Well, what can I say? It’s a top-of-the-range road bike, and it feels absolutely amazing. Well, I suppose I actually
can say a little bit more. And it’s not just the
usual things like weight and tyres that separate
a top-end road bike from a gravel or a cross bike. Because, generally speaking,
a top-end road frame will have aerodynamic
shaped sheathing to help it cheat the wind and cut through the air that much better. But aerodynamics is something that is open to absolutely anybody,
regardless of your budget. Because the biggest cause of drag is your body. And this is where a road
frame or road bike can help. Because generally,
they’re lower and longer, therefore stretching
you out and making you far more aerodynamic. (breathing heavily) – How was that, mate? – Well, same as usual. Brilliant, really. – Yeah (chuckling),
fair enough, I suppose. – How was the gravel bike? – Yeah, it was good. It was really good. Actually, it was surprisingly enough. Descending was amazing. Descending on road, it
was like it was on rails. So I’ll be interested to see what you think about it actually. – Hold that. I’m gonna give this a nudge. That sounds fantastic. Well in terms of feel, these two bikes are remarkably different. Straightaway when you
get on the cross bike, you just feel a lot higher. Generally, the bottom
bracket on a cross bike is a lot higher. So I feel far more off the ground. And at that front as well, I feel the bars a lot more higher. Definitely not cutting through the air quite as efficiently. And in terms of handling, along the descent, the
cross bike felt just as good as the road bike in the corners. Plenty of grip with this wide, knobbly tread. But the one thing you do notice, after you’ve shaved off
speed going into a corner, you don’t pick up the
speed again quite as quick due to the increased road resistance of these bigger, knobblier tyres. – My road bike, not Matt’s. Only difference, slightly less aero and no disc brakes. But, kilo lighter. See what happens. I don’t know about speed yet, but the two bikes feel
like chalk and cheese. Now, there’s the fact
that this one rolls faster and all that kind of stuff. But actually, it’s the way it handles proves out the biggest difference. It changes direction much, much easier and with much less
input at the handlebars. Partly ’cause the bars are narrower. But certainly because the
actual geometry of the bike. Now, it’s important to know
it’s neither better nor worse one way or another. You just get used to it. And to be fair, you
probably only notice it literally jumping off one
and straight onto another. But they are very different bikes. Right, enough of the touchy-feely stuff. How much slower is a gravel bike? Well, about two kilometres per hour. Or 6.7 %. And weirdly, it was the
same for both me and Matt. It’s almost as if we
actually got it right. However, as you might expect though, it’s not as simple as that. On the technical, twisty descent, the gravel bike actually
wasn’t slower at all. The stable geometry on the corners more than made up for
the slower rolling tyres. On the flat, they were
relatively closely matched. Just a few seconds separated them over the three minute section. Which works out at about 5%. Then on the climb, the
differences bloomed out. Partly of course, because
it was a slower section. Therefore it took longer. But perhaps also because the weight became more of a factor, particularly
at the lower power. Matt was therefore 12%
slower on a cross bike, and I was 9% slower So, gravel bikes are faster. There’s no doubt about that. – No.
– Not with our results. But– – No, they’re slower. – They are slower. What did I say? – Faster. (laughing) (Matt cackling) – So gravel bikes are slower. There’s no doubt about
that from our results. But, the differences aren’t exactly huge. And what you have to remember is that cross bikes or gravel
bikes were designed to go where road bikes would struggle. As Dan found out. – Yeah, Dan really did find out. Now, you might be able to
tell from the bike behind us that we weren’t entirely
satisfied with the results. So what we did is we
stuck a set of road tyres on the cyclo-cross bike to see how much faster it would then go. And the difference is pretty significant. It was pretty much as fast
as the road bike on the flat. And then on the climb,
it gained 20 seconds over the cyclo-cross bike. Now that still made it,
compared to my bike, a good 30 seconds slower
than the road bike. But we accounted for most of that with the fact that’s it
two kilogrammes heavier. Then the rest, we couldn’t quite explain. But it’s only a handful of seconds. – Yeah, so if a cross bike,
gravel bike, is gonna be your singular bike of choice, it’s really worth investing
in a pair of slick tyres which you can swap out
when you go on the road. And you won’t be at too much
of a disadvantage at all. – No, not at all. You basically get two
bikes for the price of one, which seems like a winning situation. Now undoubtedly, some of you would of already caught on to that. So let us know in the comment section, is a gravel bike your one and only bike? Is it your commuter bike? Is it your winter bike? Let us know your thoughts
in the comments section down below. – Now, if you haven’t already subscribed to Global Cycling Network,
click on the globe. It’s your one-stop shop
for all things cycling. Now sticking with gravel for a bit, how ’bout clicking just down here where we tested some gravel
bikes in deepest Wales. – That’s right. How much can a gravel bike do that a road bike can’t. One of our favourites, and not just because
Lloydy gets really grumpy. – He did get super-grumpy, didn’t he? – Yeah, the video where I got
a little bit grumpy actually was where Matt and I raced an
e-bike against a road bike. I was on the road bike. Matt was on the e-bike. That’s a great watch even if I… Well, was really grumpy. – He probably was grumpy. – I was really tired. You weren’t tired at all. – No, I was just on an e-bike.

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  1. Getting rid of my Cervelo R3 and using my Niner RLT for gravel and road with SRAM 1X and two sets of tires. I like the shifting more, and the geometry is more comfortable. If you're not competitively racing, I think this would work for most people. I like to train on gravel (hate riding with cars) and throw the road tires on for races.

  2. Ridden a cyclocross bike as my only bike for years. I just bought a Norco Threshold Carbon with Rival 1x, thru axle, hydro discs. It’s lovely and fast anywhere. Running Gatorskin 32s and set up for wet winter riding and commuting at the moment. I love it. In the spring I’m going to take the mudguards and Gatorskins off and run some 42s for a plush summer of mixed surface riding. I can’t see any need for a pure road bike for myself, as I don’t race. I’d instead get a pair of carbon wheels.

  3. What is very apparent to me, they didn't take the road bike on a gravel road. So, the gravel/cross wins out having the one bike. If you're not a speed freak. A gravel bike is a bike to have. 🙂 I used to have many bikes, now I have one bike. A Soma Double Cross, steel. Its my road, commuter, gravel, and full travel-exped bike. I cant do better then that 🙂

  4. Totally satisfied with my Trek checkpoint SL 5
    Sure it’s heavy,
    but after 2 hrs of riding you really do appreciate the iso damper and carbon frame
    This bike is so comfortable I love it
    Have purchased 28mm Road slicks and run them at 95
    best thing for on road picked up about 15%
    Takes 7 minutes to swap tyres. over
    And go do the dirt road that no road bike would dare go
    Cheers
    Ben 🙂
    GoldCoast AU

  5. These Gravel/Adventure bikes with a set of 28 or 32mm Conti 4-Seasons and a compact groupo make perfect winter training bikes.
    Maybe a missed marketing strategy??
    Great video too

  6. I recently purchased a Niner RLT 9 RDO carbon for my commute with every intention of keeping my Cannondale CAAD10 for my faster rides and nicer weather. As I ride the gravel bike I am starting to think the other is unnecessary. We will see when summer returns.

  7. I bought a nice road bike 4 years ago and then a Gravel bike this year… poor Road Bike sits in my room mostly now….. Loving this gravel bike, it can go anywhere in Houston, Gravel or concrete, Steel with Carbon Fork, super nice ride. I only ride the Road bike when racing, or group rides on the concrete.

  8. Hi guys, I'm just looking for my first bike and can't decide if I'm going for a proper road bike or a gravel bike… Any tips?

  9. Europeans have to understand hanging out in black tights and calling each other 'mate', is well…feminine… 'Mate' denotes husband/wife…

  10. I have 5 bikes, and no car. I'm thinking about selling my road bike, because I prefer to use my gravel bike on road. It's more comfortable.

  11. I ride a CX bike with 32mm road tires, and it can easily compete with fellow casual riders. The acceleration isn't as good as a similar road bike with 25mm, but it's marginal. The big advantages with a cx bike, higher crank and 32mm is the grip downhill and cornering, and the immense comfort and the fact that you can pedal through any corner, and gain acceleration out of corners.

  12. Recently starter cycling on a entry Level mtb. Wanting to get more serious and turning 50 this year, chose a gravelbike for my present. Still have to wait 6 months though….

  13. I just bought my first bike. After reading through countless options and reviews, I decided that to place versatility as a high priority in my first bike. The base model Diverge by Specialized is what I settled on and I bought an additional set of wheels which are thinner with smooth tires so I can ride quick, fast, and efficient when I decide to take on the MS150 in April.

    Im already thinking about the day I upgrade my groupset and I don’t even have the bike delivered yet haha 😅.

  14. I ride a Boardman CX 9.0 Elite as my road/gravel bike. I upgraded the wheels to Mavic Ksyrium and swap out to road tires for road rides. It’s been a great bike that I’ve used in the Mount Washington Hill Climb and soon the DK100.

  15. So I'm very new to the cycling world but I'm cycling to Barcelona from London in April. (Raising money for a charity called Mind) I bought my Triban RC 520 for the journey and have been training + commuting on that. I find myself definitely slower than the other boys when going up hill but when in stop start traffic there's not much difference. Apparently my bike is more comfortable than the others and I hella enjoy going off road. I am however worried that when we set off for our challenge the weight of the bike will get tiresome, especially when cycling 100 miles a day for 2 weeks. wish us luck! haha!

  16. I just bought a steel Kona Roadhouse (discontinued?) as a "gravel" road bike. 56mm about 22lbs. I have a titanium road bike (19.5lbs) and a carbon road bike (16.5lbs.). When I am in shape I am about equally as fast on the titanium and the carbon. For rough roads and winter riding, I'll happily ride the steel with 30mm tires at a lower pressure. For challenging club rides that are faster and longer I would much prefer a road bike.

  17. People think since I ride an urban bike that I've never had a race bike. I find that odd. Why would you buy a land cruiser when for that price you can get a Porsche?

  18. Nice video, I myself plan on getting a gravel bike with an extra pair of road tires.. But could it be a good idea to get a road bike and sometimes put some gravel tires on it ? (if I make sure the road bike has room for it)

  19. My first road bike was–and still is–a gravel bike and I haven't yet felt the need to "upgrade" to a full fled fledged road-only road bike, tbh.

  20. Beware, there are sellers of e-bikes in the UK who are not fully explaining the laws to people; instead they rely on the "no-one's been prosecuted yet" or "how will anyone know" approach.
    There are some basics: it should have pedals and be capable of being used as a bike, the motor must not be more than 250 Watts and it should not propel beyond 25Km/Hr – about 15mph.
    If these are exceeded, it does not meet the Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycles (EAPC) Regs, and cannot be used on a cycleway. To be used on the road, you must register it with DVLA as if it were a motorcycle, fit a number plate, tax it and insure it – and wear a motorcycle helmet!
    On private land, you can ride anything with the landowners permission.

  21. Umm, hope this isn't a dumb question – but if you can effectively have two-bikes-in-one simply by changing the more grippy tires from your gravel bike to road tyres – does it follow that you get similar results if you change the wheels on your road bike for gravel ones? I would assume so – but maybe an aficionado could give a more meaningful answer?

  22. Dear friends, nice test, but Crockett isn't a Gravel Bike. I have a Crossrip and the geometry is very different. Crossrip is a LONGER bike, so firm but very difficult if you want to sprint. And it isn't ideal at all for climbing. I have also an emonda and it's very very faster. I tried Crockett before buying Crossrip and I have also an old Specialized for Ciclocross and it's more similar to Emonda than to Crossrip. I like very much Crossrip and I have for it two sets of wheels, one road and one all road. But according to my opinion you have to choose another bike for test. Thank you for your nice channel.

  23. Hi All. Need Help. in between an Endurance Road Bike vs Gravel Adventure Bike. Specifically Trek Domane AL3 vs Trek Checkpoint AL3 respectively. I live in Miami, FL and want to use bike for commuting 30 miles to and from work Mon-Fri (80% pavement/20% sidewalk). and Sat-Sun Long rides. I've seen hours of videos and still having hard time deciding. Please help.

  24. My thoughts…2 sets of wheels for ones gravel bike and you can often show ya mates up on occasion on many surfaces…well worth the investment…good viewing. Cheers guys!!

  25. Ya think it's the tyres (and wheels)?? Ah yeah, dynamic (spinning weight) is a huge factor in speed/ efficiency. Probably even if they were rated at the same air pressure.
    BTW, love GSN! Keep up the great work.

  26. If you have a sense of humor, you can road race your gravel bike. Last weekend….I lined up for my first-ever road race….a time trial. Starter said "30-seconds". The holder says: "Your dragging a tool kit, on a gravel bike, with your number on upside down….you don't do this much do you"? ….Four, three, two, one, GO…..and I take off laughing my ass off. Next time I'll get laughed at for the bike only….I'm a fast learner….

  27. I have a gravel bike for my gravel, winter and Colorado riding. I have a SWORKS Tarmac for road and I love this bike it’s very fast can tell a huge difference in the wind and hills. But for what I payed for my road bike I do not like to ride it in bad weather or on bad roads. So my Pro-Diverge is awesome for crap roads, gravel and the most fun Jeep roads !! 👍

  28. I had a redline conquest cx bicycle, I used it as a commuter, a road bike and cx bike, I would even do crits and a tt on it.

  29. I just subbed to your channel. Great information. Can you please answer a question for me. I use to have a Trek road bike women's I love it. I use to do triathlon. My bike got stolen. I live in mountain country. My Trek had a triple gear ring up front. I have been looking to get another road bike. Do they still have triple gear rings or is there something else now. Love your videos guys. 🚴‍♀️🚵‍♀️💖😊

  30. For sure Gravel ! How many people can afford buying two bikes? Being 2 mins slower is okay rather than paying additional at Least 400 euro for a road bike

  31. It's not just the bike, it's the tires. More the tires. My friend rides her Specialized crossover against my Specialized RockHopper, and she destroys me on the pavement, but as soon as we hit a gravel road it's game over. My 29" nobbies fly right by her.

  32. Got a nice cross bike with nice Continental 4000 road tires. Will say been riding it for years and no complaint at all.

  33. I have been riding my Kona Jake the Snake on the road and gravel since Feb, while my carbon road bike gathers dust. It's a little slower, but way more fun.

  34. Just bought my first road bike, and went with a Scott Speedster Gravel. Grabbed some road tires too!

  35. Okay, it helps me, now buying a Gravelbike with two different wheelsets. the times of chasing every gram is over for me as an old man. 😀

  36. Casual biker here, Gravel is my only ride atm. Can't justify the expense for multiple bikes when I really don't dig deep into any one area, I do it all, and the Gravel bike fits that perfectly! Currently looking into a pair of slimmer wheels/tires for the road, but so far haven't needed it. I used to have a more offorad oriented bike with shocks and the whole nine yards, but I had to come to the realization that half my time was on the road, the other half on light trails…and only about 5% of it was serious offroad. After picking up a decent gravel bike I was sold. It does everything pretty well.

  37. Early on, I slapped a set of 23c Axial Pro tires on my Kona Jake the Snake, and kept up just fine with some of the 'pure' roadie cyclists in our club. I do wonder how well I might have done with a different bike, but Jake did a fine job. In fact, I've just refurbished the guy and hope to get a few more good years out of it.

  38. Hi Guys…

    I'm torn between Roubaix & Diverge.. Could you please give your opinion if you dont mind… Thank you…

  39. Wow, the crankset did not make any difference on flat especially with the obvious size difference & being single 40T. Is this mean 50/34T setup is over geared for us mortals? Even as double, I should be going for 46/30T type of setup?

  40. So you do a comparison between the 2 types of bikes, but you don’t use a gravel bike… makes sense to me. Worthless comparison.

  41. I have an xc MTB. Kinda sucks when going for road rides with people on road bikes. Now coming from a country with a fair moderate road network, I think I'd prefer the gravel bike to handle the patches of bad terrain. And it looks like I wouldn't lose a lot of stats except on the climbs. Still stuck between the gravel bike and endurance bike though.

  42. Why do you call this a road vs gravel bike comparison when you use a cyclocross bike? Theyre not the same. Gravel bikes have much different geometry than cross

  43. Красивые места, хороший асфальт, там любой вел поедет как пуля.

  44. Gravel bikes are for riders with no problems of self-confidence
    After 8000 km of amateur use:
    Road bikes vs gravel bikes:
    Pros:

    Climbing: Considerable faster / Flat: equal / Descend: equal
    Cons:

    – more fragile
    – less versatile
    – more insecure
    – more uncomfortable
    – more ugly (in my view obviously, thin tires sucks)
    I wonder if Wiggle had in stock more Vitus Vitesse than Vitus Substance when gcn did the comparative

  45. The gravel bike would be my one and only bike, if I could afford a gravel bike with hydraulic disc brakes, but since I can't, I have to stick to a hybrid.

  46. I have 100 dolar cost bike. bay it at 2009 year. hapy with it. only weight seems abaut 14 kg and better , that be it lighter.

  47. I use a carbon gravel bike with a lightweight road wheelset as a climbing bike. It's lighter than my aero road bike and has smaller gear ratios so it kicks ass in mountainous races and hill top finishes. I still use my aero road bike a lot, but don't see a reason to buy a lightweight road bike anymore.

  48. I'm from the US. So I think what you are calling gravel bikes we call mountain bikes. It's my only bike. I want to purchase a road bike. But it's not in the budget for me. And my Specialized Rock Hopper does allow me to do what I like to call. Urban mountain biking. Basically, I go where I want in the city by jumping curbs and crossing grass if needed.

  49. I also have only one bike at the moment and it's a cross/gravel bike but I feel that it's pretty fast on flat sections. Going uphill, it's a bit harder. I was thinking about investing in a road bike as I want to go back into triathlon racing and so far the gravel bike has been good for doing workouts. I did do a tri race with it putting slick tires on but I also changed the wheels and they were much heavier than my regular wheels so I feel like I didn't really gain any advantage…

  50. Thanks for the Test

    I will buy the Canyon Grail 7.0 and train with it for a Triathlon. Make a Bike Fitting and for the Race I will change the Tyres…

    Love that for me new category of Gravling Bikes

  51. I have a full sus MTB and a road bike but my gravel bike is my dedicated super computer/rigid XC bike/back up road bike. The thing get more miles than my other two combined and is a work horse. But I do notice I get dropped more often on uphills and out of corners on crits. And my full sus is an enduro so it would never go where that can. Still the last bike I would sell.

  52. I went the other way around: fitting the Continental cyclocross tires to a Diamondback Century. After some other bits like a Ritchey adjustable handlebar stem to straighten me out some, I have a fairly competent all-around bike that gets a bit squirrelly on gravel/mud when pushing it due to being longer. It also eats miles on Schwalbe marathon plus tires, though larger rocks will have me sitting into the frame to keep it upright when cornering on fast dirt.

    My next ride will be an adventure bike from REI with the Continental cyclocross and GP 4 season tires. It seems like an all around great choice with minimal modification to get it to feel the way I want it… and they look absolutely apocalyptic kitted out for bikepacking.

    I don’t care about my wattage or climbing like I used to: it’s more about the sharing the sights and camaraderie with drinks and bonfires after the ride these days.

    Gravel bikes all day.

  53. I have a very high end , high spec 6.4ALV ti road bike, a steel mud gaurded winter bike and a good spec carbon 29er . Sick of mucking about with 3 bikes and there maintenance etc. I'm very tempted to go for a decent gravel bike , what a conundrum !

  54. I have a Cannondale Quick Carbon as my 'road' bike, with 32mm street tires and a REI CTY 2.1 with 40mm combination tires that I use on the gravel trails near our cabin. Both great bikes. Prefer the Quick for city streets and paved trails and the CTY 2.1 for packed gravel. Neither have drop bars.

  55. I bought my cyclocross 10 years ago, and used it as my "road" bike. Never cyclocross'ed it. But I know for these bad roads in New York City, I'm better off with a cyclocross with 28cc road tires

  56. What about using a gravel bike as a moutain bike? Say for us triathlete people, and maybe it's a GTN not a GCN question. But a gravel bike for an xterra tri race vs a moutain bike?

  57. Hey mates! How you're doing?

    I'm in a big dilemma on buying a bike. I saw ALL your videos and reached the conclusion that I needed a gravel bike. Mainly because I need it to be dynamic enough for the roads I have around where I live.

    BUT the one I can afford sold out in the country and I have another option. 150€ cheaper but it's a road bike (where I'm almost sure I could adapt 35mm tyres on) and I would have the same gear (shimano 105)

    Is there any way you could help me to solve this case if I told a bit more of these bikes?? 😅

  58. Trek checkpoint ALR 5. Factory rims and tires for gravel/off-road, carbon rims with road tires for road races, very negligible difference for me than riding a Madone, and $2k for the extra wheelset beats $6k for the Madone, not to mention the space savings.

  59. other than my fixed gear i have one no. 22 gravel bike that is my baby though i dont treat her like one she likes it rough, i live in hawaii and most of my rides are a combination of road and dirt, gravel, off road…. titanium doesnt rust from salty ocean air, is light, comfortable, beautiful and should last a long time… i have a setup that allows me to switch from a road or gravel setup fairly easily… did the kona ironman with it, managed to pass a good amount of very expensive pro-like road bikes but probably cause they were just rich guys with money to burn….

  60. Just bought a 2016 Wilier cento1 cross disc and I love it. Any specific wheels recommended for the cross to road swap when needed?

  61. Loved the video. Just bought a Trek checkpoint AL3, my first "road" bike. Have used a Cannondale quick 4 for years with road bike tires. Excited to try out this with several different sets of tires. The gravel bike seemed to make more sense to me given the trail conditions and frequent gravel crossings in Iowa.

  62. Stumbled upon this video by accident and now hit the subscribe and bell icons. I'm a roadie at heart, despite getting into cycling with an MTB. Two years ago I updated my ageing stable with my first gravel muncher whilst maintaining my love affair with steel – I bought a Genesis Croix De fer. OK, it's more an adventure bike than a gravel bike but what the hell. I also bought my first carbon bike, a Focus Cayo. I love both bikes equally but in different ways. My Cayo goes as fast as an average slightly overweight bloke in his 50's can make it go so I can be sure of a decent workout. It also feels comfy enough to eat the miles (yeh, I'm very English and sticking to imperial measurement) on an all day ride.
    Then we come to the Croix De Fer. I really am in love with this machine – it may not be the lightest, it may not have the highest spec and it may be the bike I am on most days as a commuter / workhorse but when I ride unladen and just for the fun of it this bike is fun to be on. It's not going to give me the on road fun of my Cayo but it's still pretty fast and responsive until you leave the tarmac and this beast comes into it's own. I am toying with the idea of getting something lighter and faster but at the moment the Croix De Fer does everything I want it to.

  63. Gravel bikes, although simpler and less problematic with a smaller single crankset, will not be as quick at the top end as cyclocross bikes with e.g. a 50/34 double crankset, because the gravel crankset will be at max spin when the cyclocross has more spin left. Nor do I like the splayed gravel handlebars. I prefer the more aero compact cyclocross handlebars. And there's not much more that a gravel bike can do than a cyclocross with suitably wide tires can't do. For example a CUBE Cross Race Pro cyclocross bike with 35 mm tires, which is excellent. @1:42 Si says "cross bike, road bike" and maybe he meant to say "gravel bike, road bike".

  64. In America people like the ideas of invincibility, people buy big pick up truck and have feeling of invincibility and feel manly. However, they hardly use it like it was designed. Most folks I know just use them for daily commute. Same goes for people who ride bike. They ride their bike 90% on road and once in a while, they encounter a gravel road and they said to themselves, I should have a gravel bike. I just want that invincibility feeling like my big bad truck, even though I hardly ever use it as it was intended.

  65. Wouldn't a gravel bike prove to be more cost effective because the tyres lost longer than a road bike. I'm debating wether to get a gravel or road bike. I've been using mountain bikes for years but can't decide.

  66. I dont see the need to buy an uncomfortable gravel bike instead of a mtb. Why would u go on trails with a road bike? Just go for a mtb if you are into that

  67. I have a Kona Jake the snake that has a set of mavic cosmic discs and road tyres for the road and the standard cyclocross wheels for when I wanna go cross country. I know a dedicated carbon road bike would be faster but not by much.

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