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When A Horse Dies In A Stall… // Versatile Horsemanship

August 14, 2019


she just died in a stall last night
and it’s cold it’s very very cold here
that’s something that should be said – is that her heart rate was really high
and she was cold yeah so but either way the situation
that we have to deal with now regardless of how the horse actually died is that
she is in a stall and frozen and because she died during the night and so now
we’ve got to deal with how do we get her out
my mom was she’s absolutely I want to see traumatized my mom’s had horses her
entire life and gosh in 30-some years has only lost a couple of horses besides
two very very old age when my dad built this barn how many
years ago thirty years ago he built it with the plan of having to someday take
a cell wall down in case of emergency or it you know like we’ve we’ve made it he
made it so that all of the stalled like the dividing walls between the stalls
they all come out and the fronts and the stalls can very easily be taken off it
was very simple to take the front of this stall off so these are not prefab
stalls these are all everything was made by hand and built to come apart one of
the issues we were dealing with was the amount of snow that we had luckily we
had the Bobcat to plow a trail for the backhoe another thing too is the Bobcat
was small enough and could go directly down the barn aisle and through the
smaller gates to get the past year but the backhoe is too big so luckily with
the way that these pastures are laid out there’s a variety of different gates and
they’re all plenty large enough for big equipment to get out of the car sir so
that’s definitely something to think about if you’re planning pastures we
were very thankful that the ground wasn’t completely frozen and we were
able to dig a hole pretty easily we did bury a horse last winter and this was
not the case it was extremely difficult to get a hold of because the ground was
completely frozen solid where this year was so much easier so we’re very very
lucky for that I always feel like the way a horse is
laid to rest is really important and since we weren’t exactly happy with how
she was laying there my husband was kind enough to climb down in the hole and
reposition her and then of course he had to have a little bit of fun and and get
lifted out of the hole in the bucket of the backhoe so yesterday morning my mom
came back here because the this horse was missing and we’re back right at the
edge of the woods and she found the mirror back here down and it’s very matted down her so
she clearly you know what’s up and down a lot but when my mom got out here the
horse got up right away and very willingly walked back to the barn with
her so um and they got a vet out right away and the vet tubed her checked her
temperature they got blankets on her call that stuff and the horses body temp
was down to 97 but her heart rate was very elevated
she wouldn’t drink anything she did start to eat some hay and actually you
know when we just buried her she has she had a mouthful of case still so to see
that happen it really only makes sense that you know she may have had a heart
attack and the way that she was in the stall there was no struggle it looked
like she just laid down but she had a mouth full of hay so doesn’t appear that
she had choked but she clearly was was eating when she died the way that they
planned 30 years ago to make their burn so if something bad does happen it could
easily be taken apart and she her head was right here this is where the stall
door was installed and then her body was against here and
her tail against the back so and she was laying there like she had just laid down
there’s no no sign of struggle or anything like that in the saw and she
wasn’t covering sweat nothing like that when my mom found her and another
interesting thing is that she had a mouthful of hay so it just appeared like
she was eating and then just drop dead when Mom was out here late last night
and the worst seem to be doing much much better so she was she was extremely
surprised this morning to find her find that she had passed the stop but what I
want to show you is how easy it was to get her out of here this is something
that a lot of people don’t want to talk about because it’s traumatic but it’s
reality and I want to educate as many people as I can about what you do in a
traumatic situation like this so basically when my dad built this barn
he greased all the four by fours when he put him in the ground and so he cut it
off right at the bottom here and then cut it right here and these boards just
popped right off very easy so none of this had to even be touched so a
neighbor has a bobcat piece of machinery and brought that over drove right down
on the barn aisle and we got a tow strap around the horse and when he drove out
of the barn just pulled her right out and since it’s the end stall it was very
easy because she wasn’t driving on the concrete and got rid out there and was
able to be pulled out into the field where she was gonna be buried so it was
such a fast process and I want to tell you when I was in high school a friend
of mine her horse had died in its stall in the middle of the night and we have
very bolt cold temperatures around here today it’s about negative 13 or so I
think yesterday we had negative 20 so it’s and that’s without
windchill with windchill it’s like negative 30 so it’s been cold but anyway
in this friend of mine in high school were forced died in the stall and froze
solid and the only way that they could get the horse out of the stall because
of how everything was built the location everything they had to cut it up with
the chainsaw to get it out so you know my dad really put a lot of thought into
building this barn and knowing that he had to make things so they could be
movable in case of emergency situation so my my word of advice is if you’re
gonna be building a barn think about those things in advance because it’s
really hard when you’re in the moment and have to make decisions like that to
try to think what you’re gonna do and you know especially when it’s freezing
cold out you know it’s so cold that the last thing you want to be doing is
standing out here trying to figure out what to do in a situation like that what
I want to know and when all the viewers want to know too is share your story
have you ever been in a situation like this and what did you do how did you
handle it help us educate others as to what they can do if they ever find
themselves in a in a in a tragedy like this where they’ve got to make a
decision but don’t know exactly how to go about it so let’s help as community
teach others as to what options there are so comment below make sure to let us
know your story well I’d like to say I hope you enjoyed
this video but you know it wasn’t really I think those are the wrong words to put
towards it I hope you found this video informative I hope you found this video
real and I hope that this video can in some way maybe help you in the future
for being prepared for bad things happening and yeah so but if you’d like
to see more videos about keeping it real about my journey with horsemanship about
everything that I encounter on a on a daily basis with horses if you want to
see all that stuff the best thing that you can do is subscribe and be sure to
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up and I try to post as several videos a week and I never know what it’s gonna be
so today I didn’t know that I was gonna get a phone call from my mom this
morning saying that there was a horse dead in the stall but you know and I
look at it as a opportunity to help educate others so you know I I filmed
what I could and what I felt was appropriate to share with others and of
course I wanted to keep I didn’t want to have any footage of the horse herself in
there because I don’t think that that needs to be shared but you guys get the
point so anyway thanks so much for watching I feel very lucky that I have my
partner-in-crime along for the ride with me anytime anytime something happens he
is there on the spot ready to come with ready to help in any way so big thanks

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  1. This winter has not been kind to your herd😞, I just saw the video about Missy yesterday. At first I thought this was another part to that video.

  2. I am truly sorry for your lost. I just wanted to say that I am very thankful for channels like yours that show the ups and the downs of horse ownership.

  3. I never even thought about this! What a great idea and definitely important to consider. I couldn't imagine having to cut up a horse's body with a chainsaw. That must have been so traumatizing for your friend! 🙁

  4. Have you ever been in a similar situation? If so, please consider sharing your story! I’d also like to know if you found this video helpful. I really appreciate the feedback.

    Here’s a list of a few of my videos that “keep it real” with horses https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIR-JJucLqwJziOBozWJh8bCHUvaZg7hk

  5. I’m so sorry. I do know that you handled sharing the story and information very well. The larger the animal, sometimes it seems the harder it is to take care of or deal with things just like this. When it comes to owning and caring for horses, difficult things definitely come along and need to be handled carefully and quickly. I believe that is why after being in barn management or even being a barn hand and doing all of the hard physical work with animals that tend to be on consistent schedules, we really tend to do and find very VERY effective and efficient ways and methods to get the work done correctly. I know I have learned some really amazing methods and techniques working in big busy training and show Barns over the years.

  6. The barn we volunteered at, built their stalls so when horses go down or die they can tear down the stalls. So it's easier to take a stall wall down, sadly a HORSE did go down in a stall.

  7. So sorry for your loss. 🙁 But a very smart way to build a barn! Thanks so much for sharing! Luckily our stall fronts come apart easily as well, but where to take the body is the hardest part, as these areas there is a lot of rock. Luckily there are some spots on my property I could probably bury a horse, and wouldn't be surprised if there are horses already buried here, as my property was part of a much larger farm at one point.

  8. I never had one die but I thought one did but he was sleeping out in the paster and would not awnsering cuz he was sleeping

  9. I'm really sorry for your loss and hope you and your mum are ok.

    I don't have horses, ride, or work with horses, but I love animals and genuinely think that you're a lovely person so I enjoy your videos. I love seeing your horses happy and learning about them.

    When any animal dies it's devastating, but I'm glad your Dad built things in a way where this situation didn't end up in a chainsaw and more trauma for everyone involved. People just don't think about these things when building barns, as none of us want to think about the worst case scenario so often it's not until it actually happens that we think about the practicalities. Thinking about these things early really could save a lot of heartache further down the line.

  10. Thank you so much for candid post on reality with horse keeping. I found it so informative and your dad was so clever to have designed your barn like this, where you live.

    I've found this post today, the day I have had to put my beloved brindle whippet Bill to sleep, aged 15. I feel at a loss even though I was prepared for this day as he was so frail.
    Hugs to you and your horses from Liz in the UK xxx xxx 🐴💕🇬🇧 I have subscribed to your channel now xxx

  11. Hard but very nessecary subject.
    Thank you.
    When I build a barn, this subject will be addressed.

  12. Love how the barn was built! Will take to my farm manager to see if possible this idea can be incorporated into my barn. Sorry your moms horse passed. It is a devastating time I know. Been there.

  13. I'm sorry for your loss. I'm not a horse person but I found this video very interesting and informative.

  14. our barn was built without stalls. they just have a large area to walk in n out of but we did plan for things to go wrong….we have large doors and keep one closed usually. we can open it and expand the doorway to 14ft across to fit a tractor in or scoop out our barn. in our little barn the whole side can be easily removed if need be. we used screws so it's just a drill gun to take it apart and put it back together. learned from the cows and grandpa…always have a way to get them out….even if you never use it!

  15. Two of our horses was put in a medium sized pen together,(one was a traumatized rescue) big mistake. The rescue has a history of attacking other horses(not humans or other animals, and they were put together by the mistake of our family friend who was watching them at the time)and this time he was the cause of the others death. And he ran off after.
    When I found out, the one who died was completely frozen. I was alone at the time and had to do everything by myself. Digging, dragging, catching the other horse, everything…
    It was really traumatic, so never be afraid to ask for help. I had to do it alone, but you should never have to do that.
    (The other horse has now been euthanized if you wanted to know)

  16. What if you can't bury a horse? What are the other options? What about cremation? What are the choices you're left with? Thank you.

  17. Aw man, its the worst when something like this happens…. your dad built a damn good stable/barn. Thats amazing, Ive luckily never had to deal with snow since im in West Tx and it only snows 3-4 times a year. I had a foal die a few hours after birth due to a birth defect and it was horrible, we had just rescued the momma and didnt even realise she was pregnant. Long story short we use to have a relationship with the Rangers where we would rescue and foster horses theyd find that were stolen. So we had her for a few days before she had her foal. Luckily, we got to keep momma and we named her Lucky and she was one of, if not the, best horse we've ever had. She was a blue/grey dapple and I still cry when i think of her, she died 9 yrs ago after we had her for 19 yrs.. bless your mom, i hope shes doing okay. Oh and is your barn heated? Your dad did a damn good job.

  18. Do you have any type of heating system in place for the animals especially since your area has such extremely cold weather?

  19. Horses are smart. When they are out in a pasture in freezing weather, they move and run around when they feel like they are freezing. They can't do that in a stall. I do not like putting horses in stalls. I'd rather give them the choice. In or out. but I get why once in a while you have to stall a horse. So sorry for your loss. I know usually you let them all out in the pasture.

  20. Ugh seriously why don't people think before they post stupid insensitive comments. I don't understand why people think it's ok to post hateful things just because you don't know these people. Everyone becomes an expert behind their keyboards!
    Seriously people grow up!

    Also I'm sorry for your loss. And for the hurtful comments people have made. 😟

  21. Only seen it once, they got the builders in to remove the front of the stall, only because it was bolted to stone walls.

  22. Very cleaver way to build a barn! So much thought had been put into it, also I’m sorry for your loss.

  23. I was already subscribed, about to click the bell though. Really enjoying the wealth of knowledge you are sharing.

  24. Thank you for this information! As a fellow horse owner, I really appreciate the honesty and “real-ness” of your channel. If you could show more detail on how the stalls come apart that would be awesome because I wasn’t really understanding the details of it. I’m going to be doing a barn next year and I’d like to have it done the way your dad did theirs. Such a smart way to do it!

  25. I lost an animal in the winter of 2017. I could not get her in the ground I unfortunately just let her stay frozen in an empty paster before I could bairy her a few weeks later. definitely something to think about.

  26. Great idea glad your dad thought ahead, worked on a stud as a teenager, had some 8 month old Colts in preparing for sale, had old cement wall stalls so no chance of removing it, one Colt passed away a we had no way to remove him but in pieces 🙁 feel your pain, and so glad someone thought ahead when they built your stalls xx

  27. I'm kind of confused about exactly what happened. Can someone explain for me. For I am not a horse owner. Thanks.

  28. I had a similar situation happen when I boarded my horse at a large horse farm. Thankfully, it wasn't my horse that passed, but a very old, gray gelding. He wasn't being ridden anymore, but he seemed to be enjoying his retired years. The barn manager found him dead in his stall when he was doing morning feeding. It looked like he had struggled somewhat, as there was a large hole in the bottom of the stall where he may have been pawing or digging. He had been fine the evening before. The barn manager drove the Bobcat through the barn and tied a tow rope around the horse in a way that he could be moved safely without having to break the stall down. He was slowly moved to the outdoor wash stall area, where a pet cremation service truck could pick him up (his owner opted for that). The owner of the barn didn't allow for burial on the property, so options for aftercare were limited. Thank you for sharing this video. It is very helpful to anyone who is considering building a stall barn, and/or for those who already have barns with stalls. It's a tough thing to deal with, but it's good info to know.

  29. Thank you so much for addressing this very important topic. I found this to be quite informative/helpful. It's something many find it difficult to even think of the inevitable, let alone what to do. I do have a question regarding the other horses sharing a barn, be it with one, or more, what are the reactions / their spirits when one of their own passes on?

  30. I remember when I was around 4 years old my moms stallion Buddy died in his stall during a very bad storm I remember her dragging him out it was very scary. I can not remember if she had to cut him up but I am very sorry for your loss

  31. Horses belong in a pasture, not locked in a stall, thts like a human locked in a closet. Horses also dont need bits, whips, chains etc etc, pit a shelter out in the pasture

  32. I’m very sorry for your loss. This is a good example of why horses need to wear blankets. These horses froze to death. Even though they have a thick winter coat it’s not enough to keep them warm. This happened to my trainers horse because she forgot to put a blanket on one of the horses. When she went to go to take care of him she saw that their wasn’t a blanket on him and he was dead on the ground. Hot wheels was only ten when this happened to him.

  33. Those of us with large dogs also need to consider those types of "what if" situations.

    A friend designed his barn with many of the same considerations. All stalls are fronted with 16 foot gates, as a Bobcat is employed for stall cleanouts. The aisle is wide enough for. Hay wagons and livestock trailers to pull through and park, while leaving enough room for the Gator to drive by or a horse to be led. Removeable stall walls allow two pony mares and foals to buddy up, or for 4-5 weanlings to be separated from dams as a group.
    Half the barn is basically a huge run in…..open to pasture, heated water and round bale feeders…with plenty of room to buck on chilly mornings!

    And yeah…I saw the result of a horse death in the stall. We removed the gate, used the bobcat to put the carcass on a sled, and hauled out to the back 40.

    Thats another issue…a natural death can be buried or fed to the local vultures/eagles. A horse that has been euthanized by injection needs a diffetent disposal method.

  34. I don't have any horses we have holstien cows but last summer we had a bad storm and she was struck by lightning and she died with grass stuck out of her mouth and it is really hard to get a stiff dead cow out of a stall and to pull her out with the tractor I hate having to do that because it is like they are just something that was there and are not but I love all of our dairy cows R.I.P Tracy

  35. Thank you, it did give me pause to think about what I would want in a barn /stall, I had to make that very decision to put our beloved older mare down on St Patricks day 2019, without hesitation, I said we have to move her to a place where she can be picked up…easily as there was no access to her if we put her down in the pasture…Thank you for sharing the experience…

  36. I'm so sorry for your loss. Horses are amazing. I totally understand why you wanted to change the position in the grave. That's true love

  37. Today we had to put a horse to sleep 😕 he was to weak to stand up so he laid in front of his stall. We pulled him with a tractor and then loaded him in the front end loader
    REST IN PEACE Shibec ❤️

  38. We move them out to the middle of our big piece of land and allow nature to recycle them in about 48 hrs.

  39. Our older, 30+ gelding, died similar to this. He was just off acting and after calling my boss and a vet, I was listening for gut noise and happened to feel his sheath and it was ice. Being a Sunday, no vet was available so it was just me. I gave him a good dose of Banamine and stayed with him til the end.
    I heard him fall in the stall and opened the door so we wouldn't have to drag him out. He walked out to his pasture, went to his favorite corner, grabbed a mouthful of grass, made his usual lap and then collapsed by the gate. I was right by him with my boss on speaker. At one point he was 'running' while laying there. I played my hand on his nostril and he passed. Hardest thing I've ever been through, but I'm glad I was there for him. RIP Tangy, best babysitter and pony horse ever.

  40. I work for an equine vet and came to work one morning with a dead horse in the stall. Its made out of concrete with two doors both 4 feet wide. It was also mid winter. We had to turn it on its back and bring it out with a crane to be able to put it on the truck

  41. My barn was already in place when the property was purchased, but we redid the walls and we are able to take them down in about 10-15 minutes.

    When we redid the pastures, I made sure all gates were a minimum of 8’ wide so we could get a truck through in case we needed to get in, or if someone dies, we can get them out.

  42. That happened to me. A few times actually. The most recent we had to put the horse down and we had a really hard time getting him out. And he was very old but had a really good life. And that’s what matters. But I live in south Texas so we get no snow or ice.

  43. I am so very sorry for your family’s loss. Your poor mum, I can only imagine her shock and grief at this tragedy and my heart hurts for her. 😢

    This is a terrific video though, especially for us as we’re about to build our barn – it’s actually a Quonset that we’re building box stalls for our two horses in (plus two extra box stalls, four in total and a tack/grain feed room ). Your dad did a terrific job in his barn and it’s really helped to remind us to design our upcoming build with emergency situations in mind. Thanks so much (We’re in Alberta Canada, so our barn will be heated – it’s bloody cold in winter here!! 🥶).

    My own experience with this sort of loss is: When I was young, we had an older mare pass unexpectedly on us in the middle of winter in -42C weather and we ended up having to chainsaw the stall front apart and then drag Miny out on chains. It was truly horrible, and the memory has never left me. We ended up having to burn straw and logs on top of the area we wanted to dig out to thaw the ground enough to bury her, but it took days to do and we ended up having to each take turns standing vigil over poor old Miny with rifles to keep the predators away from her body. It was….traumatic, to say the least. Loss is all part of ownership, regardless of the animals, but we’re never truly ready, especially when it happens suddenly like this. Again, my condolences. 😢💔

  44. That snow is nothing compared to what we get! This year, we got 11 feet of snow lol

    I love horses. I don't own any, but I really like all the information you give in your videos!

  45. You're very strong. I would have been balling my eyes out. I'm already balling and it's not even my horse. My heart hurts listening to this. Very sorry for your loss.

  46. My condolences to you and family during this difficult time. Your father is a very smart man to have the foresight to think of uncertainties.

    I have a question, burying a horse on property: do you have to check with State/county laws to do this?
    Are there regulations? What if you have well water? Is solar heat good for these weather conditions to prevent onset of certain deaths?

    Take care! Xxxx

  47. The video is completely black for me. Which is fine if that was the intent. But just in case it isn't supposed to be and this is an error I figured I should say something.

  48. My dog had been put down a couple of months ago due to having 2 tumours and cancer
    All I had to do is just think about the happy times we had together and I wrote a letter to him saying I will always love you till.the day I die
    I put it in his box because we decided we should get him cremated and that means they burn him and they give us his ashes in money of him
    All you got to do in a time like this is just think about the happy times you had together.
    I'm really sorry to tear all of your tradgic events and i hope you can be happy because if you put any animal down it is the best thing because that means they don't have to be in pain any more.

  49. My trainer had to sadly cut a horse up (just limbs) because it passed in a stall. I couldn’t even imagine having to do that but, sadly it has to be done, they need to be moved. Luckily you didn’t have to do that. I’d definitely try all I could to remove the wall before I had to make that choice. Great design on your dads part

  50. Wow i cant believe your high school friend went through that! Thats so traumatizing and heart breaking!

  51. I've been wondering how these kinds of situations are handled for a while now, thank you for sharing your version! obviously not everyone does it this way, but this was still very educational and helpful, and definitely something that's good to know! thank you for keeping it real.

  52. We had a horse die in a stall a few years ago due to a heart attack. She was laying right in front of the door so we were able to flip her onto her back and drag her out to her place a burial

  53. My JD died with grass in his mouth too. It made me feel a little better that he went quickly 😢

  54. Sorry you had to go through this but good on your dad for thinking ahead. Very informative information.

  55. I use to work at a barn, our stalls were separated by 2×6 slats that could easily be removed, we never had a horse die but we did have one that went down because he was colicky, we were able to get him up and out by taking out the wall.

  56. I've never even thought of that issue before. How do the other horses in the stable react?
    I hate to think of the chainsaw story you told, but I guess you couldn't use other horses to drag a dead one out.
    🙁

  57. Heart Attack is very rare in horses because horse hearts so strong and big, that the arteries usually will rupture long before a heart attack. High heart rate can be a sign of infection like bacterial or virus..also, she could have flipped her stomach…Colic can happen for many reasons…I am so sorry this happened..I have experienced this several times in my lifetime with horses..

  58. What do you do when your horse dies at another stable instead of yours? How do you get them back to your ranch and maintain some dignity for the horse? I am so sorry for your loss and tell your Mom I feel bad for her too. I cannot believe it gets that cold where you live. I live in the mountains of Virginia and we don't usually get any colder than the teens….. rarely in the single digits.

  59. Yes, I have had a tragedy similar, and also live in a snowy climate. My Morgan mare died suddenly in mid March, and we still had 15" of snow on the ground. What made it worse, was that the weight restrictions (frost laws) had just come into place only 5 days prior. That meant there was no legal way to have an excavator come with heavy equipment to bury her until it lifted. We live in a wilderness area, and bear country. I spread 250 lbs. of lime over her, and a clean tarp with logs placed all around. The only thing to do then was wait and check each day for the law to lift. After 5 weeks, it did, and that very day she was properly buried. In the meantime, I decided to take my Quarter Horse to a nice boarding stable as she was constantly looking for her companion. It would have been so selfish to keep her here alone for myself. I see, groom, and be with her very often, and on every day off. She is my Heart Horse, and 28 yrs. old now. She deserves every bit of happiness I can give her in her sunset years 🙂 It is hard when horses die, and especially in winter! Life doesn't always happen on our schedule, so as horse owners we must do our very best in every situation. God Bless.

  60. I found my mare dead in her stall from a broken neck. We have no idea what happened to her but we were faced with this very problem. We had to take the whole front off to get her out, it was a horrific way for a magical girl to die. I had her cremated and I still have her ashes 20yrs later. I am so sorry for your loss. 🙏

  61. My horse just fell down and died while galloping I broke my neck but I didn’t care I still got up and sobbed over him his name was speedy because he was super fact R.I.P speedy .

  62. am i the only one cringing at the sight of someone getting down in a trench deeper than 1m with the excavated soil just beside?

    that's dangerous

  63. I lost a 5 year old mare during Hurricane Irma, two pine trees fell and hit her in the head, instant death. The flooding was so bad that we couldn't bury her or have the body removed. The water was at least 6 inches deep and she was quite far away from any gates, even a 4-wheel drive truck could not have taken her body out. The buzzards found her and there wasn't anything I could do about it. I was having some health issues that I was dealing with, I tried to get my friend that has a landscape company to dump a load of mulch over her, but he couldn't get there because of the flooding and all the pine trees that came down during the hurricane. I just pray that the next time a hurricane comes that I am able to evacuate my animals. We went through the eye of Hurricane Wilma, then Irma and that was the only animal that was killed, although I lost 4 goats later because of the flooding.

  64. I didn't want to watch this video but finally did. I am so sorry that your mom lost her mare,but the blessing of it being quick. She didn't suffer. You did a marvelous job of posting this with dignity for the horse.

  65. I'm not heartless, but we've been dealing with horses for decades and to us they are not pets, but for work and profit. My wife works for a large animal Vet so they are well taken care of,…but….when they die, they go into the hot compost pile where they will be converted into usable compost soil in a few months. If we don't need it, we don't feed it. The end.

  66. Your poor Mother! I'm so sorry she had to go through that. How very smart your Father is to think ahead that way. And what a talented Man he is!

  67. We slaughter horses and we get a lot of hate for it but we also own horses I do dressage and I eat horse ! it’s no different than cows!

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